[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Don't you bloody start! I'm an old generation remember

Aren't you a GenX Kizzy? We all know it's the Boomers we have to really watch out for .

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Aren't you a GenX Kizzy? We all know it's the Boomers we have to really watch out for .

Ah right

[Toy Soldier]

The Silent Generation too. Dodgy characters.

[Toy Soldier]

And not that silent tbh. Rather opinionated

[James]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think anyone would say it was all that but the scale of support for Labour amongst young voters clearly was a big factor in this election. Look how different it is to 2015

That's got to be the effect of the EU referendum.

It's kind of ironic though the switch to Labour in the vote, in that Corbyn is a left-wing eurosceptic who is likely against free trade and single markets.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Trump! Brexit! Feminism! Free Speech!"

Wherever do you find such hard-hitting journalism, Brillo. I was shook to my core by this well-written, thoroughly researched piece, I have to say.

Just because you don't approve of the source doesn't make it invalid. It is a perfectly reasonable source and it comes as no surprise that his points on the irony of Labourites becoming the victims of their own hype doesn't sit well with Labourites.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by James

That's got to be the effect of the EU referendum.

It's kind of ironic though the switch to Labour in the vote, in that Corbyn is a left-wing eurosceptic who is likely against free trade and single markets.

Yes those who went Labour as an anti-Brexit vote should remember how half hearted and turgid Corbyn support for Remain was. He obviously can campaign and mobilise a lot of support as he did in the general election, he just didn't really fancy it for the EU referendum. If he had he might have swung the vote to Remain

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes those who went Labour as an anti-Brexit vote should remember how half hearted and turgid Corbyn support for Remain was. He obviously can campaign and mobilise a lot of support as he did in the general election, he just didn't really fancy it for the EU referendum. If he had he might have swung the vote to Remain

True, we often forget how passionately Theresa May campaigned for Leave.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes those who went Labour as an anti-Brexit vote should remember how half hearted and turgid Corbyn support for Remain was. He obviously can campaign and mobilise a lot of support as he did in the general election, he just didn't really fancy it for the EU referendum. If he had he might have swung the vote to Remain

What makes you think his campaigning was turgid?...He campaigned as hard as anyone didn't he?

"Jeremy led from the front in the EU referendum campaign. He made the positive case for remaining and reforming the EU up and down the country.

"His activity included:

10 EU rallies, with speeches and meetings in London, Bristol, Stroud, Newquay, Perranporth, Cardiff, Blackpool, Bournemouth, Liverpool, Runcorn, Manchester, Truro, Sheffield, Widnes, Doncaster, Rotherham, Hastings, Brighton, Dundee, Aberdeen and Birmingham.
These included a meeting with student nurses in Birmingham, a factory in Runcorn, a clean beaches event in Truro and campaigning with activists in Scotland.

Launched the Labour In bus and the Ad Van.

A debate on Sky News with Faisal Islam, also talked about the EU on the Agenda and the Last Leg. Appeared on the Andrew Marr show twice and on Peston on Sunday.

Written two op-eds, one in the Observer and another in The Mirror.
Reached more than 10 million people on social media.

Six statements to the House of Commons and 10 PMQs on the EU.

He has been consistent on this issue from day one of his leadership, issuing a statement in September that “Labour will be campaigning in the referendum for the UK to stay in the European Union”."

Is there a similar breakdown for Cameron or May?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...ve-122-8617013

[Toy Soldier]

Cameron et al. sat on their hands too... The fact is, the entire remain camp was complacent, they just didn't believe that the leave vote was a realistic possibility, so none of them campaigned as hard as they could have.