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looks like the SWP placard makers will be on double time again






Left wing campaigners are planning a “day of rage” to coincide with the Queen’s Speech this week in protest over the conditions they claim led to the Grenfell Tower blaze and the deaths of at least 58 people.

Militant groups are planning to march on Parliament on Wednesday in a show of anger at the Government’s austerity policies they say led to the tragedy.

Led by the Movement for Justice By Any Means Necessary - formed in 1995 by a number of Marxist groups - campaigners are urging protesters to “walk out of school, take the day off, call in sick, strike”.

Advertising the event the movement’s Facebook page declares: “We must escalate our actions to take down this rotten government, which has lost all authority to govern.”


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The shadow chancellor and Momentum and Corbyn have been stirring this up. They want to see riots on the streets, and Momentum are providing the thugs to initiate it.
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Left wing campaigners are planning a “day of rage” to coincide with the Queen’s Speech this week in protest over the conditions they claim led to the Grenfell Tower blaze and the deaths of at least 58 people.

Militant groups are planning to march on Parliament on Wednesday in a show of anger at the Government’s austerity policies they say led to the tragedy.

Led by the Movement for Justice By Any Means Necessary - formed in 1995 by a number of Marxist groups - campaigners are urging protesters to “walk out of school, take the day off, call in sick, strike”.

Advertising the event the movement’s Facebook page declares: “We must escalate our actions to take down this rotten government, which has lost all authority to govern.”


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"walk out of school"
Dafuq?

How old are these marxist protesters??
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The Socialist Worker right up the front when it comes to Incitement to Riot. As usual. And while they're "demonstrating", they might want to think about this:

"A row has broken out between Labour’s new Kensington MP Emma Dent Coad and her Conservative predecessor over the Grenfell Tower fire.

Ms Dent Coad, below, has accused Tory-led Kensington and Chelsea council of failures that led to the blaze, claiming “poor-quality materials and construction standards have played a part in this hideous and unforgivable event”.

But as a councillor she was on Kensington and Chelsea’s housing scrutiny committee, which oversees “community safety issues”, until May 2014.

A 2014/15 report, in which she is named, says the committee scrutinised work on Grenfell Tower.


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79 now

and alluding to the fact that there were people in there who perhaps were not meant to be in there officially
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Most people on the left abhor the SWP and encourage those who don't know their history to not take placards from them at protests.

Can we please stop assuming these demonstrations are all organised by them when they're not? They are being hijacked
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The shadow chancellor and Momentum and Corbyn have been stirring this up. They want to see riots on the streets, and Momentum are providing the thugs to initiate it.
Agreed and WHO would call a peaceful protest 'Day of Rage' !!!! Some poor guy got beaten up yesterday as the mob thought he was a councellor, and he was a volunteer helper,this is just an excuse for thugs to get out their and do damage and probably get a free TV,,FFS get a grip people.
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looks like the SWP placard makers will be on double time again






Left wing campaigners are planning a “day of rage” to coincide with the Queen’s Speech this week in protest over the conditions they claim led to the Grenfell Tower blaze and the deaths of at least 58 people.

Militant groups are planning to march on Parliament on Wednesday in a show of anger at the Government’s austerity policies they say led to the tragedy.

Led by the Movement for Justice By Any Means Necessary - formed in 1995 by a number of Marxist groups - campaigners are urging protesters to “walk out of school, take the day off, call in sick, strike”.

Advertising the event the movement’s Facebook page declares: “We must escalate our actions to take down this rotten government, which has lost all authority to govern.”


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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...descend-riots/
BIB, I can't blame the people (which will be more than just the left) being left angry after the Tories were so cheap that they ended up taking people's lives, even if it wasn't intentionally they did play with fire (literally) and they got burned.
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Most people on the left abhor the SWP and encourage those who don't know their history to not take placards from them at protests.

Can we please stop assuming these demonstrations are all organised by them when they're not? They are being hijacked
nah theres far bigger numbers involved in violent marches on the left than even the far right in this country
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And so begins the Hillsborough treatment of the victims by the tabloids. Papers like The Sun won't be able to resist confusing these issues by making out that those SWP pricks are representing the victims in order to demonise them. As soon as the government starts to face heat over their complacency in allowing illegal cladding to burn hundreds of people to death their lapdog papers will leap to their defense. The silence on the true number of victims is testament to this.
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And so begins the Hillsborough treatment of the victims by the tabloids. Papers like The Sun won't be able to resist confusing these issues by making out that those SWP pricks are representing the victims in order to demonise them. As soon as the government starts to face heat over their complacency in allowing illegal cladding to burn hundreds of people to death their lapdog papers will leap to their defense. The silence on the true number of victims is testament to this.
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That has no bearing or relevance to my post but okay.
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And so begins the Hillsborough treatment of the victims by the tabloids. Papers like The Sun won't be able to resist confusing these issues by making out that those SWP pricks are representing the victims in order to demonise them. As soon as the government starts to face heat over their complacency in allowing illegal cladding to burn hundreds of people to death their lapdog papers will leap to their defense. The silence on the true number of victims is testament to this.
You're bang on Dezzy.

It's disturbing how corrupt the Papers are when they'll make out that the victims are the bad guys for being angry at having their lives being put at risk.
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You're bang on Dezzy.

It's disturbing how corrupt the Papers are when they'll make out that the victims are the bad guys for being angry at having their lives being put at risk.
i think there is clear misunderstanding here.

Rent-a-mob is being mobilised. The shadow chancellor along with Momentum have called for a million people to get on the streets and protest. This isn't about the poor folks affected by the fire, this is about cynical opportunism, encouraged by Corbyn being used to subvert democracy in this country. I urge everyone to open their eyes.
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BIB, I can't blame the people (which will be more than just the left) being left angry after the Tories were so cheap that they ended up taking people's lives, even if it wasn't intentionally they did play with fire (literally) and they got burned.
Sorry,that's bollox,lots of people are to blame !!
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i think there is clear misunderstanding here.

Rent-a-mob is being mobilised. The shadow chancellor along with Momentum have called for a million people to get on the streets and protest. This isn't about the poor folks affected by the fire, this is about cynical opportunism, encouraged by Corbyn being used to subvert democracy in this country. I urge everyone to open their eyes.
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The Socialist Worker right up the front when it comes to Incitement to Riot. As usual. And while they're "demonstrating", they might want to think about this:

"A row has broken out between Labour’s new Kensington MP Emma Dent Coad and her Conservative predecessor over the Grenfell Tower fire.

Ms Dent Coad, below, has accused Tory-led Kensington and Chelsea council of failures that led to the blaze, claiming “poor-quality materials and construction standards have played a part in this hideous and unforgivable event”.

But as a councillor she was on Kensington and Chelsea’s housing scrutiny committee, which oversees “community safety issues”, until May 2014.

A 2014/15 report, in which she is named, says the committee scrutinised work on Grenfell Tower.


http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...-a3566661.html
She left in May 2014, the work was completed in 2016 was she in charge of procurement for the contractors?... What is being inferred here?

Is this not just the ex tory MP desperately trying to deflect away from her failings while she sat on reserves of £274 million?

Labour Councillors were well aware of the rot!

https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/council-and-...-budget-speech
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i think there is clear misunderstanding here.

Rent-a-mob is being mobilised. The shadow chancellor along with Momentum have called for a million people to get on the streets and protest. This isn't about the poor folks affected by the fire, this is about cynical opportunism, encouraged by Corbyn being used to subvert democracy in this country. I urge everyone to open their eyes.
So do I, open your eyes and see the country in managed decline, the public have a right to protest we did for the poll tax when we felt our rights were being infringed upon... What is different now?

The public has essentially been kettled for years, austerity and media demonisation of the poor and vulnerable has created a pressure vacuum.
Something had to give, the conservative campaign was the catalyst for this shift in the main, Corbyn just became the public mouthpiece.

If the public lose faith in the establishment then for me they are going to analyse what is being sold to them with a more critical eye, the country was misjudged which is why increasing numbers are aware of failings as well as inadequare responses to issues that directly affect the public as a whole.

So for all the years of division it's been shown to fail as communities band together, that is not a subversion of democracy.
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So do I, open your eyes and see the country in managed decline, the public have a right to protest we did for the poll tax when we felt our rights were being infringed upon... What is different now?

The public has essentially been kettled for years, austerity and media demonisation of the poor and vulnerable has created a pressure vacuum.
Something had to give, the conservative campaign was the catalyst for this shift in the main, Corbyn just became the public mouthpiece.

If the public lose faith in the establishment then for me they are going to analyse what is being sold to them with a more critical eye, the country was misjudged which is why increasing numbers are aware of failings as well as inadequare responses to issues that directly affect the public as a whole.

So for all the years of division it's been shown to fail as communities band together, that is not a subversion of democracy.
so we just had an election.......
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so we just had an election.......
We did yes, and since then the facade has worn thinner exposing a rancid underbelly that nobody voted for.
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or its just a band of bad losers as per?
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i think there is clear misunderstanding here.

Rent-a-mob is being mobilised. The shadow chancellor along with Momentum have called for a million people to get on the streets and protest. This isn't about the poor folks affected by the fire, this is about cynical opportunism, encouraged by Corbyn being used to subvert democracy in this country. I urge everyone to open their eyes.
Totally agree.It's any excuse to "rage" against the system.
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She left in May 2014, the work was completed in 2016 was she in charge of procurement for the contractors?... What is being inferred here?

Is this not just the ex tory MP desperately trying to deflect away from her failings while she sat on reserves of £274 million?
Was Theresa May?

She was on the committee that oversaw the project. Her name is on the report. But the Left is now so used to deflecting and claiming innocence when it is actually ineptitude, it's a way of life now. The Left is probably dizzy from all the spinning. According to Corbyn supporters, everything on the Right is evil and everything on the left is all rainbows and pretty flowers.

And for the record, Seeing Corbyn's grinning face in Kensington the day after the fire as he cynically used the whole terrible incident for his own promotion is actually sickening. But then, lets not forget that he forged his name through his support of terrorism and now that fact follows him around. Not with his blinded supporters, but with the rest of the country.
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There was an anti austerity protest organised before the fire happened. Owen Jones was going on about it constantly on facebook ages before the fire.

I think this probably will end in riots. Especially if the council keep withholding answers from people.
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or its just a band of bad losers as per?
It may be sidelined as the noisy minority as per that doesn't detract from logic behind the protest.
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