[Ashley.]

I think a lot of it is because he was on here. I'm not saying that's the pure reason, but he isn't the type of housemate that's usually liked on here so I think him being from the forum allowed people to give him more of a chance instead of instantly and stubbornly taking a dislike to him, as they usually would.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I think a lot of it is because he was on here. I'm not saying that's the pure reason, but he isn't the type of housemate that's usually liked on here so I think him being from the forum allowed people to give him more of a chance instead of instantly and stubbornly taking a dislike to him, as they usually would.

exactly this i agree with, i really like seeing one of my friends in the BB house

[Littlegreen]

I think he's a breath of fresh air in that house. Not obsessed with sex and hardly ever swears... maybe that's why he gets labelled "shifty" because he isn't the norm?

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I think a lot of it is because he was on here. I'm not saying that's the pure reason, but he isn't the type of housemate that's usually liked on here so I think him being from the forum allowed people to give him more of a chance instead of instantly and stubbornly taking a dislike to him, as they usually would.

I agree. I really think he would be pretty unpopular here if he wasn't a member.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

I think he's a breath of fresh air in that house. Not obsessed with sex and hardly ever swears... maybe that's why he gets labelled "shifty" because he isn't the norm?

Yes. We're just not used in seeing normal people as housemates anymore.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Makes me want to give Ł100,001 tbh!

Ditto for me.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Ditto for me.

If he wins he needs to take us all fans to dinner

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Shaun

That's fair. I can get why his awkwardness isn't 100% endearing. I'd be lying if I said I'd never had a problem with him lol but he's a nice guy and I'd rather nice guys won.

This

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I note that the fandom for him has fallen off a cliff on Tibb as the initial "omg he is on tib and he is gay" thing (not that a being gay or on tibb is bad) has worn off and people get to see the real him (pretty dull, in awe of a strong women, no real interest in talking to anyone else). His nervous laugh and non-Britishness leave many feeling unrelatable to him.

I am sure he is a nice guy but he is hardly Brian Dowling or Cameron Stout.

Are you really ****ing bigging up Cameron Stout of all people.

[fitz2k2]

anytime one of his close friends does something stupid he gives off an awkward laugh.first someone that says he hates people bitching and people talk about sex.he hangs with chanelle who talks about sex daily and bitches to

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by fitz2k2

anytime one of his close friends does something stupid he gives off an awkward laugh.first someone that says he hates people bitching and people talk about sex.he hangs with chanelle who talks about sex daily and bitches to

He's close to Chanelle because she actually bothered to get to know him. Tom slagged him off to the others at the beginning because of his VT. Causing him to feel isolated at times..

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

I think he's a breath of fresh air in that house. Not obsessed with sex and hardly ever swears... maybe that's why he gets labelled "shifty" because he isn't the norm?

Excellent points,well said.

[Jason.]

I like him, he's perfectly fine. However, he's probably the weakest Exile for me from an entertainment standpoint. Like I feel he's a bit overpraised when he's easily top 5, but not top 2 worthy.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jason.

I like him, he's perfectly fine. However, he's probably the weakest Exile for me from an entertainment standpoint. Like I feel he's a bit overpraised when he's easily top 5, but not top 2 worthy.

In a house full of show offs he's the most normal and I love that.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

Are you really ****ing bigging up Cameron Stout of all people.

The Stoutmeister is the best ever winner of BB

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

In a house full of show offs he's the most normal and I love that.

Normal?

waving his hands around, laughing in a shifty way, fake smiles and saying one thing doing another. He is the LEAST normal one in there

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

In a house full of show offs he's the most normal and I love that.

He's also genuine Vanessa.
I agree with you he doesn't need to show off,his qualities are what endear people to him.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He's also genuine Vanessa.
I agree with you he doesn't need to show off,his qualities are what endear people to him.

Yes, he's being himself and I like that. Can't wait for him to meet Sue. She loves him

[LeatherTrumpet]

Simone will hate him

she will shake up his shifty ways

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes, he's being himself and I like that.

If this is truly himself, I would imagine that his RL friends have to watch themselves around him. He is inherently untrustworthy.

I mean, we have seen him deliberately set up his 'friends' in there with and slink off when the fight starts.

Not someone I would trust as a friend. he has no qualities that I would look for in a friend, tbf. Even Chan just used him when the cool kids weren't interested. She is all over Isobelle now she has an option.

[Littlegreen]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Normal?

waving his hands around, laughing in a shifty way, fake smiles and saying one thing doing another. He is the LEAST normal one in there

He has openly admitted to being wary of people, so his behaviour is probably due to anxiety.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Littlegreen

He has openly admitted to being wary of people, so his behaviour is probably due to anxiety.

This! But he's opening up more now. He has made friends and he's having fun.

[chuff me dizzy]

Raph would not be popular if he wasn't a member on here, i judge people on what they are like in the house, not for a vote in most loved ,everyone should have judged him in the same way ,but they haven't

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Raph would not be popular if he wasn't a member on here, i judge people on what they are like in the house, not for a vote in most loved ,everyone should have judged him in the same way ,but they haven't

You can honestly say that if one of your friends went in the house, you wouldn't be supporting them regardless?

I do agree that most of his support stems from him being a member and have conceded on several occasions myself that I've only given him a pass because of it (although recently he's gone up in my estimations on his own terms), but it's completely understandable that his friends would support him. He isn't my favourite, but I do get why those who are closer to him will support him regardless.

[rph]

I didnt know raph untill the cast release - still would want him to win