[rusticgal]

I'm coming to the conclusion he can't be trusted..

[TaylorCallum]

I'm hollering at the thought of him coming back here and reading all these messy threads .

[Epic.]

Y'know, for someone who hates on Raph so much you sure do like talking about him a lot

[parmnion]

Lets all face facts, raph is a crap housemate.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Actually Vanessa I see plenty more threads by you trying to make him out to be the unchosen one.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I thought he said he was Welsh?

He did

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Actually Vanessa I see plenty more threads by you trying to make him out to be the unchosen one.

[Glenn-C]

1. Everyone exaggerates in their VTs, I'd probably say stuff like that too so they'd put me in

2. He only said in the house he was born in Paris, it's other people saying he said he was born somewhere else so

3. They might not all be in date

4. He didn't.

5. He doesn't.

6. See 1.

7. Andrew was flirting with him.

8. How do you "try" to win a show when the public vote for you?

9. He got upset over what people were saying about his friends, not him

10. Didn't know about this so I can't say anything.

11. See 9.

[LeatherTrumpet]

I liked him at the start but now all this, its very worrying and i feel sorry for his fans as this all gets exposed

[thisisdanny]

Originally Posted by sampvt

RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional

1. 90% of them lie in their VT.
2. Has never said he was born in different countries, just 1. Has said he's lived elsewhere though.
3. I don't know enough information on this.
4. He didn't finger Chanelle, that's hilarious.
5. Has never once said himself that Joe is bullying him.
6. Your opinion.
7. Your opinion. In my opinion he's just being friendly.
8. Your opinion. I think he's there for both, but who wouldn't want to win?
9. Your opinion. I think he's just sharing with his friends what people have said about them. It makes him loyal.
10. He probably thinks drinking is okay, but getting drunk is not.
11. Your opinion. All enough emotions are heightened in there.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I liked him at the start but now all this, its very worrying and i feel sorry for his fans as this all gets exposed

no you disliked him from the start, so stop lying.

[TaylorCallum]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I liked him at the start but now all this, its very worrying and i feel sorry for his fans as this all gets exposed

Now let's not be telling fibs.

[y.winter]

The whole Rachel situation does make him lose credibility, since it's not the first time (+dragging lovely Rachel into it).
There's something about Raph, a dissonance between what he truly feels and what he want other people to feel about him. I guess it'll be a lesson for life.

[DouglasS]

Some of these points are really ridiculous that I'm not sure I'm able to take the post seriously. I do agree that he lied prior to coming on the show though. However many houseguests do it just to get cast.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by LukeB

no you disliked him from the start, so stop lying.

Incorrect. He is my personal friend on Tibb

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Incorrect. He is my personal friend on Tibb

Now you are taking the piss out of him? how nice.

[Lostie!]

The whole situation with Rachel is undeniably messy but I still haven't seen anything that makes me think he's a particularly horrible person. I've only ever had pleasant interactions with him on here and his personality on BB seems to perfectly line up with how he's always seemed. Fabricating stuff online, while absolutely unhealthy, hardly makes him evil incarnate. There are sometimes more reasons for people exaggerating certain aspects of their lives than simply being evil manipulative scum but I suppose that's the easier thing to believe if you don't like the person to begin with.

Likewise, whatever his reasons for not liking Rachel anymore won't change my view on her whatsoever. I'll give them both the benefit of the doubt because I still haven't seen anything that makes me think less of either of them. Until I see inarguable evidence of either being indefensible twats, which I don't think is very likely.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Now you are taking the piss out of him? how nice.

I know

How dare someone take the piss out a housemate

Do you want me to check your posts to see if you ever have?

[LeatherTrumpet]

lol can you imagine if this was Lotan?


unbelievable

[TaylorCallum]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol can you imagine if this was Lotan?


unbelievable

Raph didn't threaten to beat up women though? Even if he has made a few things up or exaggerated stuff it's not quite as bad as that.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

Most people do this tbh Very very rarely is anyone anything like their entrance VT. Being yourself is not what BB want, you kind of have to make up a version of yourself to get on the show, or at the very least exaggerate yourself a lot

Originally Posted by sampvt

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

I don't think he has said this? Just he holds 4 passports

Originally Posted by sampvt

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

2 active passports I think this would be. He may have other nationality passports that have ran out/been invoked but he still holds the physical passport, if that makes sense.

Originally Posted by sampvt

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

This was clearly a joke between them A fair few members seem to have taken this seriously..so maybe it wasn't as clear as I thought it was.

Originally Posted by sampvt

5. He instigates conflicts equally with Joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

This I can agree with. With him and Joe both are as bad as each other. However, as a BBH fan Raph knows that a very effective way of gaining support is to be 'the victim' so I think this might have something to do with it.

Originally Posted by sampvt

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

'Everything' he does? How on earth would one be in the BB house and make every little thing they do part of the game?

Originally Posted by sampvt

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

I haven't seen him flirting tbh. Plus 'love' is very different to lust. I know a few people who don't believe in love but shag about. Not saying this is what Raph does mind, but people like that exist. I didn't know he doesn't have emotions though? I don't remember being told this...is he sociopathic?

Originally Posted by sampvt

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

Winning is part of the experience tbh, if you are lucky enough to win.

Originally Posted by sampvt

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

Yes, I agree with this. Can't really run between groups bitching (and exaggerating, and making things up) on then whine when you are called out on it by the public who have watched you do this

Originally Posted by sampvt

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

Drinking is nothing to do with drugs. I also thought he just smoked weed, is that classed as a narcotic or is there more I don't know? Most drugs are actually safer than drink, both in terms of behaviour, and health. I didn't know he didn't drink either, sure I have seen him running to the store room once alcohol is announced

Originally Posted by sampvt

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional

Never heard him say he is not bothered by insults. But yes, he does seem to get very upset over little comments.



As for being 'the biggest BS merchant ever in BB history', I believe that title belongs to Dexter Koh

[Jack_]

I actually enjoy the international man of mystery vibe he has going on, yes all of this is messy AF but I think it's kinda hilarious that a housemate like him is embroiled in all of it

Much more interesting than many others

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I actually enjoy the international man of mystery vibe he has going on, yes all of this is messy AF but I think it's kinda hilarious that a housemate like him is embroiled in all of it

Much more interesting than many others

He's very interesting. Yes!

[RhysJones]

It's funny how the whole thing with Rebecca saying that Raph has complained to BB about Joe bullying him, and then all of the sudden half of the comments on threads are along the lines of 'Joe is such a vile bully that's been so nasty to Raph, and Raph would never say anything bad behind his back' I hope the voting public aren't sheep like half the people on here

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by sampvt

RAPH

1. He admits his VT is BS so he scammed and lied his way into the house.

2. He says he was born in 4 different countries

3. He says he holds 4 different passports but only 2 are allowed

4. He says he is gay, but he openly fingers a woman (?) in the house.

5. He instigates conflicts equally with joe, yet he claims he is being bullied.

6. He openly says he is a game player yet everything he does isnt a gameplay.

7. He openly condemns love and emotion, yet he flirts with Andrew.

8. Hes says hes only there for the experience, yet he tries so hard to win.

9. He hates being called 2 faced, yet its a daily occupation with him.

10. He abhors drinking, yet his friends say he abuses narcotics quite often.

11. He maintains he isnt bothered by insults, yet he is overly emotional


I am sure there are lots more things that are confusing, but to be fair, the aforementioned are more than enough to cause concern about who and what he is. Sorry if Ive burst anyones bubbles but everythng on here is fact and known to all of us. Sure some points can be defended, but the fact still remains he isnt a very nice chap and he is a liar, cheat, 2 faced snake and an all round bad egg.

Nominates ellie for talking about sex yet on day 14 he can be seen writhing on a sunbed as he and charlotte laugh about big dicks hurting.