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22-07-2017, 08:43 AM | #1 | ||
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Looking at the rest of Europe it suggests it is. What a great place to live.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OY_KUNqQ4 Last edited by Brillopad; 22-07-2017 at 09:02 AM. |
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22-07-2017, 08:45 AM | #2 | ||
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Link is ****ed so dunno.
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22-07-2017, 08:47 AM | #3 | |||
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22-07-2017, 08:47 AM | #4 | ||
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22-07-2017, 08:51 AM | #5 | ||
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22-07-2017, 08:52 AM | #6 | |||
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It opened for me fine, that's scary ****
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22-07-2017, 08:55 AM | #7 | ||
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22-07-2017, 08:57 AM | #8 | |||
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The video is indefensible "hence it's not working" is a handy dodge
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22-07-2017, 08:59 AM | #9 | ||
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22-07-2017, 09:03 AM | #10 | ||
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I've watched the video and I do understand why people are scared by it. To be honest my overall thinking lately is that there's an uncomfortable truth we're all ignoring and it always strikes me when I see these videos where crowds of people are swarming like ants; The world is ****ed for the pure and simple reason that it is grossly overpopulated full stop, that problem gets worse by the second, and there's nothing we can do about it. I swear the scariest link on the Internet is not an article or a video. It's just this: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/ It tells its own story and its all you need to know. IMO the world can comfortably support less than half of that number. And look at it. It just keeps on growing. Horrifying. We are such a plague... Last edited by Toy Soldier; 22-07-2017 at 09:04 AM. |
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22-07-2017, 09:07 AM | #11 | |||
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22-07-2017, 09:09 AM | #12 | |||
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I think Europe is getting to be a very scary place, Something like 9,000 migrants arrived from Africa near Venice last week, the numbers are staggering.
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22-07-2017, 09:10 AM | #13 | ||
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But uncomfortable truth or not this excessive population growth is a far bigger problem within certain cultures. How do we address that if we are not allowed to mention it without fear of being labelled? |
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22-07-2017, 09:25 AM | #14 | ||
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22-07-2017, 09:33 AM | #15 | |||
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There are no go areas here where gang violence is rife already though, this would be the scene if you walked in with a film crew in many areas of London for instance, obviously it desperately needs addressing.
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22-07-2017, 10:31 AM | #16 | ||
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It does if we want to be able to live in a safe country and even more importantly want our children to grow up in a safe country. This country is becoming more violent and dangerous by the day.
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22-07-2017, 10:39 AM | #17 | |||
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What would be a solution?
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22-07-2017, 10:46 AM | #18 | ||
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I think there are a combination of reasons including migration, government policies and the creation of an environment where certain things cannot be discussed and therefore don't get addressed as they should - just escalating the problems.
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22-07-2017, 01:14 PM | #19 | ||
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A large part of the issue with the violence though is gangs / gang culture in London. E.g. The majority of these "acid attacks" are gang related. And yes, if we're being honest, there are many young 2nd / 3rd generation immigrants who end up in gangs, but this tends to be down to poverty and social stagnation, which exists across the board in our cities. Even if you completely halted all immigration, 100% of it, our cities would still have problems with gangs... The problem is a social and economic one that goes far beyond immigration.
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22-07-2017, 01:33 PM | #20 | ||
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I really don't see the problems - learning basic English and maths skills are free to non-English speakers, they have plenty of time to work on it and have others they can go to these classes with. We bend over backwards to help with these things. They need to adopt the attitude most of us do that, other than benefits, nothing is handed on a plate and they have to work for it. It really is difficult to sympathise with people who have that mentality. So what do they do - as you say they often resort to gangs and violence and criminal activity, probably not that far removed from where they 'escaped' from. Is it really simply a case of you can take the man out of the third world but you can't take the third world out of the man. Last edited by Brillopad; 22-07-2017 at 01:34 PM. |
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22-07-2017, 02:10 PM | #22 | ||
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22-07-2017, 02:14 PM | #23 | ||
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'They aren't culturally english! They aren't white!'
TS has hit the nail on the head, gang culture is a social and economic issue rather than a race one. |
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22-07-2017, 02:25 PM | #24 | ||
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Those from immigrant families have much more opportunities (especially 2nd/3rd generations) than they would likely have had if born into the countries their parents/grandparents came from. Many do do well. For those that don't there has to be an element of self-responsibility. You can't just keep blaming everything on us - it's a cop-out. If you want to keep harping on about skin colour - I would like to know how many white gangs there are in comparison to non-white gangs. I think it is obvious there are a lot less white gangs - so how does that make gangs culturally English. That makes no sense. Last edited by Brillopad; 22-07-2017 at 02:28 PM. |
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22-07-2017, 03:44 PM | #25 | ||
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