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Old 05-09-2017, 12:30 PM   #1
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Serving British soldiers are among four alleged members of National Action, the banned neo-Nazi group, arrested on suspicion of preparing acts of terrorism.

The men - a 22-year-old from Birmingham, a 32-year-old from Powys, a 24-year-old from Ipswich and a 24-year-old from Northampton - were held on Tuesday.

The Ministry of Defence confirmed that "a number of serving members of the Army have been arrested under the Terrorism Act".

West Midlands Police said the four men have been arrested on suspicion of terrorism offences.

A spokesman said they "have been arrested on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation and instigation of acts of terrorism under Section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000; namely on suspicion of being a member of a proscribed organisation (National Action) contrary to sec 11 of the Terrorism Act".

All four men are being held at a police station in the West Midlands.

The arrests were carried out by police in conjunction with counter-terror units from the West Midlands, Wales and the East Midlands.

Several properties are being searched in connection with the arrests.

A police spokesman added: "The arrests were pre-planned and intelligence-led; there was no threat to the publicís safety."

An Army spokesman said: "We can confirm that a number of serving members of the Army have been arrested under the Terrorism Act for being associated with a proscribed far right group.

"These arrests are the consequence of a Home Office Police Force led operation supported by the Army. This is now the subject of a civilian police investigation and it would be inappropriate to comment further."
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Right-Wing Nazi terrorist SCUM!!!!

This is what all the ignorance-driven BS results in. Just hope this isn't just the tip of the scumberg.
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The Rise of Right Wing terrorism continues. 'Alt Right' (read: Neo Nazi) groups need to be called out for what they are and the Right Wing needs to disavow them.

I hope that these people get the book thrown at them and the media doesn't attempt to portray them as anything other than the terrorists they planned to become.
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Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level

stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA
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Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level

stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA
I forgot the whole reason for the nazis was to fight make against islamic terrorists in the 20's and 30's
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I forgot the whole reason for the nazis was to fight make against islamic terrorists in the 20's and 30's
Im sorry that sentence does not make sense
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Im sorry that sentence does not make sense
I think he's trying to say something like "yeah, the rise of the Nazis in the 20s and 30s was totally because they were Islamophobic lol" or something.
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The Rise of Right Wing terrorism continues. 'Alt Right' (read: Neo Nazi) groups need to be called out for what they are and the Right Wing needs to disavow them.

I hope that these people get the book thrown at them and the media doesn't attempt to portray them as anything other than the terrorists they planned to become.
Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.

While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.

People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves.


If I had to make a guess, I'd guess it's all planned.
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Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.

While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.

People don't feel protected and are gonna start defending themselves.


If I had to make a guess, I'd guess it's all planned.
Protected from what? I don't feel I need to be protected from the far right. I certainly don't feel the far right are protecting me. They are just a bunch of thicko's too dense to understand the connection between mass immigration and the Wests grotesque act of invading other countries claiming those countries as our territory and stealing their resources to keep our emperors and crown.

They are too stupid to understand that the only thing that will stop refugees and stop terrorist acts, is to stop our terrorist acts on them and the only way we can do that is to topple the globalist Masters who create these artificial wars on terror.

The uneducated who walk with the far right are just slaves of the propaganda machine. They are nothing more than a tool, designed to keep our eye off the bigger picture. Sometimes to rule, you have to divide.
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People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves.
What exactly would you like people to believe British people aren't being ''protected'' from ?

How exactly would these people have been ''defending themselves'' ?

When British citizens start excusing domestic terrorists then what hope is there for our Country ?

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Just a direct consequence of Islamic terror in the UK, the more Islamic terror the greater risk that people will try to take the law into their own hands from the same socio-demographic and intelligence level

stands to reason, does not make it right but its kind of similar to the UVF/UDA
It's not really because groups like NA are not just against Muslims but also Jews and anybody non-white. And anyway they hate Muslims because of their Nazi ideology not because of Islamic terror. I wouldn't say that neo-Nazism is any bigger today than it was in the 80s either
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I'd be interested to hear what acts of terror they had planned - apparently even vandalism is classed as an act of terror these days... Though as soldiers, I'm sure they're capable of things more damaging.
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Of course it is, and I'd expect it'll continue too.

While people are being thrown in prison for putting a few rashers of Bacon on a building and so called hate speech, while at the same time importing terrorism.

People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves

So you're a terrorist sympathiser, then?
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So you're a terrorist sympathiser, then?
No, just discussing the predicament we find ourselves in. A bit of a far assumption by you there.

Although I should just shut up, shouldn't I?


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Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.
A friendly hidden face and a synchronized Sieg-Heil. It's enough to warm the blackened ashes of Donald Trump's 'heart'.
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Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.
Scum like that have no more in common with the average rightie than Antifa scum do with the average leftie
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Lucky it says they're Neo-Nazi's or the local rightie's would be screaming 'ANTIFA'. They'll be so relieved when they see it's some of their own kind.
A friendly hidden face and a synchronized Sieg-Heil. It's enough to warm the blackened ashes of Donald Trump's 'heart'.
I thought you were gonna go through a whole post without mentioning Donald Trump there. But right at the end, there it was. Your favourite, you had to get it in.

I'm right aren't I, he's in almost every post you make, even when he isn't involved?

Do you dislike the leader of the free World more than the leader of ISIS? which one of those do you dislike most? It'll be interesting to hear your answer, because I know which one you seem to dislike most.
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No, just discussing the predicament we find ourselves in. A bit of a far assumption by you there.
It's not really any sort of assumption, it's a statement of fact. You are being understanding of their terrorist activities by saying "People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves" and also talking about "their predicament" in an attempt to understand - or sympathise with - domestic terrorism. Now I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T discuss these things - but I don't imagine you have much time for it when people start talking about the reasons for the rise in international terrorism? You can see why British people would turn to terrorism after being terrorised, but you'd never be understanding of a middle eastern terrorist whose home / country has been destroyed by Western powers .

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It's not really any sort of assumption, it's a statement of fact. You are being understanding of their terrorist activities by saying "People don't feel protected, and are gonna start defending themselves" and also talking about "their predicament" in an attempt to understant - or sympathise with - domestic terrorism. Now I'm not saying that people SHOULDN'T discuss these things - but I don't imagine you have much time for it when people start talking about the reasons for the rise in international terrorism? You can see why British people would turn to terrorism after being terrorised, but you'd never be understanding of a middle eastern terrorist whose home / country has been destroyed by Western powers .



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Just understanding to nature, if you back people into a corner and strip them of their rights, they're gonna come out fighting. Sh1t happens.

I can tell you now for a fact, I'm no sympathiser, I'm not even political. I'm an observer and am only on my own side. And I like winding people up, I think they call it trolling these days, it used to be called interacting,
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I thought you were gonna go through a whole post without mentioning Donald Trump there. But right at the end, there it was. Your favourite, you had to get it in.

I'm right aren't I, he's in almost every post you make, even when he isn't involved?

Do you dislike the leader of the free World more than the leader of ISIS? which one of those do you dislike most? It'll be interesting to hear your answer, because I know which one you seem to dislike most.
Al-Baghdadi has far less chance of negatively impacting our lives than Drumpf but he'll probably hold his position for longer so all in all they'd probably hold an equal spot on my personal scale of disdain.

Trumpski has never been nor will he ever be the ''leader of the free World''. Nothing is free in Donald's World. He's going to be getting a very large bill from Mr. Mueller soon and i can guarantee he won't be able to pay it. Go straight to jail Don the Con, and take Pence and your foul, corrupt offspring with you.
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Just understanding to nature, if you back people into a corner and strip them of their rights, they're gonna come out fighting. Sh1t happens.
Indeed. Hence the existence and rise of ISIS in the first place, I suppose.

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You're far too sensitive to be an oldschool troll, Alf.
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