[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The Referendum happened last year, Brillo.

Tell that to Corbyn!

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Tell that to Corbyn!

If Corbyn wants to sperg on about the EU, that's his prerogative, let him waste his breath is that's his idea of a high afternoon, he won't get anywhere.

[jaxie]

The EU is a mess but those who want to cling on seem to be blind to the issues and uninterested in the impact the EU has had and is having on our oceans and fishing, not to mention the lack of democracy, so it's kind of pointless trying to educate, they can't take the strain of having to use a passport for the duty frees.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The EU is a mess but those who want to cling on seem to be blind to the issues and uninterested in the impact the EU has had and is having on our oceans and fishing, not to mention the lack of democracy, so it's kind of pointless trying to educate, they can't take the strain of having to use a passport for the duty frees.

Exactly. The likes of Juncker etc have shown themselves to be no more trustworthy than most of our MPs. They are trying to put on a brave face to suggest that all is well and enforcing their powers, whilst Europe crumbles around them.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Exactly. The likes of Juncker etc have shown themselves to be no more trustworthy than most of our MPs. They are trying to put on a brave face to suggest that all is well and enforcing their powers, whilst Europe crumbles around them.

I suspect a huge financial corruption scandal will happen at some point. I hope we are long gone when it does so we don't get dragged down with it.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I suspect a huge financial corruption scandal will happen at some point. I hope we are long gone when it does so we don't get dragged down with it.

I agree. I just don't get why people refuse to see the issues with the EU. No-one can be that blind - can they!

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Exactly. The likes of Juncker etc have shown themselves to be no more trustworthy than most of our MPs. They are trying to put on a brave face to suggest that all is well and enforcing their powers, whilst Europe crumbles around them.

So you admit that our MPs are corrupt? Well that's a start.
If we keep our banking structure, rely on capitalism and austerity we are quite literally dead in the water.
In or out of the EU.

[DemolitionRed]

The EU has done a lot of good and we can't deny that. Its also done a lot of bad which we can now rid ourselves of. We need though, to look at the good policies and continue those policies within British law, whilst getting rid of the policies that suffocated us.

I'm delighted that we can now reform our fisheries and farming laws because EU common agricultural policies has robbed both farmers and fishermen of their trade. We need (and this is close to my heart) to stop the transportation of live animals for meat (and I didn't know this until I watched a parliamentary debate) we need to stop funding bullfighting in Spain, but we do need to continue the protection of our natural habitats. EU law has ensured we cleaned up our act with rivers and beaches from sewage. Before we joined the EU Blackpool beach wasn’t even listed as a beach or shown as a beach on maps because it was so filthy. The reason its an award winning beach today is because the EU made us take responsibility. Some regulations need to continue, not under the EU directive but under our own laws and regulations.

We need to take the good and discard the bad.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Tell that to Corbyn!

Okay, you've mentioned Corbyn for no apparent reason in a topic relating to EU, can we get a muslim mention for a full house?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Okay, you've mentioned Corbyn for no apparent reason in a topic relating to EU, can we get a muslim mention for a full house?

Seems I need to connect the dots for you - Corbyn has done a u-turn on Brexit which amounts to overturning the referendum result. See the connection.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

The EU has done a lot of good and we can't deny that. Its also done a lot of bad which we can now rid ourselves of. We need though, to look at the good policies and continue those policies within British law, whilst getting rid of the policies that suffocated us.

I'm delighted that we can now reform our fisheries and farming laws because EU common agricultural policies has robbed both farmers and fishermen of their trade. We need (and this is close to my heart) to stop the transportation of live animals for meat (and I didn't know this until I watched a parliamentary debate) we need to stop funding bullfighting in Spain, but we do need to continue the protection of our natural habitats. EU law has ensured we cleaned up our act with rivers and beaches from sewage. Before we joined the EU Blackpool beach wasn’t even listed as a beach or shown as a beach on maps because it was so filthy. The reason its an award winning beach today is because the EU made us take responsibility. Some regulations need to continue, not under the EU directive but under our own laws and regulations.

We need to take the good and discard the bad.

Great post, how nice to agree for a change, it's been a while.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Seems I need to connect the dots for you - Corbyn has done a u-turn on Brexit which amounts to overturning the referendum result. See the connection.

Okay sweetheart, you might need to sit down for this for what I'm about to tell you.

Jeremy Corbyn is not in power, Theresa May and the Tories are. Bleating on about Corbyn in order to bury your head in the sand over the mistakes you made in voting for the Tories won't change the fact that they're the ones running the show.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Okay sweetheart, you might need to sit down for this for what I'm about to tell you.

Jeremy Corbyn is not in power, Theresa May and the Tories are. Bleating on about Corbyn in order to bury your head in the sand over the mistakes you made in voting for the Tories won't change the fact that they're the ones running the show.

Resorting to sexist put downs again. Remind me how progressive you are! Real professional.

Being in power is not the issue, it is about intent and the lengths he will go to to try to get that power.

[Vicky.]

Merged these threads. I did warn about the multiple threads on same subject. Obviously if there is actual new news then a new thread is needed. A new thread is not needed for new opinion pieces or old news.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You'll take the word of an economist if it's one of the few that is saying that Brexit is a shining star. If it's one of the DOZENS of economists who have stated how disastrous Brexit has been / will be, you're happy to ignore them and bleat that the "public has spoken!". Snooze.

How do you calculate your economists up? How do you know which are the dozens and which are the few? Can you name then, have you got a graph?

[jaxie]

I don't know why people keep trying to complain that the economy is in the toilet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34621440

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I don't know why people keep trying to complain that the economy is in the toilet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34621440

27 October 2015

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

27 October 2015

So fast on my misfire. Having a few problems with my tablet this morning and posted before I was finished. I was going to add that we are still growing after the recession and add:

https://ig.ft.com/sites/numbers/economies/uk

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

So fast on my misfire. Having a few problems with my tablet this morning and posted before I was finished. I was going to add that we are still growing after the recession and add:

https://ig.ft.com/sites/numbers/economies/uk

I don't see any positives there... what are you seeing?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't see any positives there... what are you seeing?

Our country is in the top ten leading economies of the world, at five I believe, if you can't see any positives then there isn't much more I can say.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Our country is in the top ten leading economies of the world, at five I believe, if you can't see any positives then there isn't much more I can say.

In relation to the infographs you presented as proof... Are you saying because we are doing better than 3rd world and developing countries we are OK?
:/

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

In relation to the infographs you presented as proof... Are you saying because we are doing better than 3rd world and developing countries we are OK?
:/

Our economy is comparable to Germany's are they a third world country?