[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Hopefully the mother wont be charged.

She hasn't so far but I'd imagine that since the man has been charged then they're happy with her version of events and that would be seen as defence of her child?

[LeatherTrumpet]

do we know if either or both were drunk or on drugs at the time?

[bitontheslide]

I find it interesting that such viscous violence is being largely condoned. She performed a pre-meditated frenzied attacked on someone with intent to kill. That shouldn't be just brushed aside as if it was ok, it most certainly wasn't.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I find it interesting that such viscous violence is being largely condoned. She performed a pre-meditated frenzied attacked on someone with intent to kill. That shouldn't be just brushed aside as if it was ok, it most certainly wasn't.

If it all went down like she said then how was it pre-meditated? Pre meditated and frenzied seem contradictory

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

If it all went down like she said then how was it pre-meditated? Pre meditated and frenzied seem contradictory

it was pre-mediated because she had to fetch her pen-knife, open it and then stab him, that wasn't a shock reaction, it required conscious thought. It was frenzied because she stabbed the guy multiple times. Frenzied and pre-meditated can easily go together

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was pre-mediated because she had to fetch her pen-knife, open it and then stab him, that wasn't a shock reaction, it required conscious thought. It was frenzied because she stabbed the guy multiple times. Frenzied and pre-meditated can easily go together

That's not premeditated.

If what she said is correct, then grabbing the knife was a reaction to an incident she didn't know was going to happen. She reacted there and then to get that man off her kid, that isn't premeditation ffs

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's not premeditated.

If what she said is correct, then grabbing the knife was a reaction to an incident she didn't know was going to happen. She reacted there and then to get that man off her kid, that isn't premeditation ffs

of course it is. She made a conscious decision to kill him and carried out a series of steps to achieve it, she wasn't reacting in shock. That would have resulted in her hitting him with something lying around, punching him etc. I'm surprised you don't see the difference.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

of course it is. She made a conscious decision to kill him and carried out a series of steps to achieve it, she wasn't reacting in shock. That would have resulted in her hitting him with something lying around, punching him etc. I'm surprised you don't see the difference.

I'm surprised you don't know what premeditation means tbh

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm surprised you don't know what premeditation means tbh

i know fine well what premeditated means, and i am saying it was premediated. She knew exactly what she was doing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i know fine well what premeditated means, and i am saying it was premediated. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Clearly you don't though. Grabbing a knife in the middle of crime being committed against your child would under no circumstances be considered as premeditation.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i know fine well what premeditated means, and i am saying it was premediated. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Knowing what she was doing doesn't make it premeditated though, the point is whether or not she planned the attack beforehand, or if it was a reaction to the situation she walked in on, and does the extremity of that situation justify her reaction.

Personally I think it does. I reckon my parents would have done the same thing, and I think I would probably react the same if I was a parent. This is a peodophile in the middle of raping your child, you'd want to attack them with everything you've got to get them to stop, and if she had a pocket knife on her then I can completely understand why she'd use it. Her only priority in that situation would be saving her child, I don't think it's reasonable to expect anyone to show restraint.
Premeditated would be if she'd have done nothing, left and calmed down, then planned to attack him later.

The fact as well that she called the police straight after works against the idea it was a premeditated attack.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I find it interesting that such viscous violence is being largely condoned. She performed a pre-meditated frenzied attacked on someone with intent to kill. That shouldn't be just brushed aside as if it was ok, it most certainly wasn't.

So you are saying had it been your daughter you would have waited till he finished shook his hand and walked him to the door because he didnt deserve to be hurt?

[Tom4784]

If she hasn't been charged but he has then the police who have all the evidence and testimonies undoubtedly believe that they corroborate with the mother's version of events.

I abhor violence but the idea of the mother sitting back and taking pictures for evidence instead of intervening is incredibly ridiculous.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Looks like hes guilty already....i would never defend a paedophile...but come on, we dont know the triuth yet...

"The boyfriend told police that the mother attacked him because she was jealous that her daughter had developed feelings for him."

He's not even denying it. His defense isn't that he wasn't trying to rape her child, it's that the child wanted it (and that the mother was jealous).

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

"The boyfriend told police that the mother attacked him because she was jealous that her daughter had developed feelings for him."

He's not even denying it. His defense isn't that he wasn't trying to rape her child, it's that the child wanted it (and that the mother was jealous).

Pretty much standard peadophile logic too

[RileyH]

I'd make sure he was dead tbh if I was that mother

****ing ****

[DemolitionRed]

I believe she acted in defence of her daughter and although he could press charges against her, he will probably be persuaded not to.

The trauma that woman and her daughter are going to go through is immense. I just hope they get all the help they need... I suspect they will.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Neither the woman nor her boyfriend have been charged in connexion to the incident....

hmmm

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Neither the woman nor her boyfriend have been charged in connexion to the incident....

hmmm

"Police charged Troy Parks, 31, with rape and gross sexual imposition, Cleveland.com reported. Police have not yet indicated if the mother will be charged after reportedly stabbing Parks five times in the chest and once in the back of his head."

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/...es-say-police/

Troy Parks, 31, is charged with rape and gross sexual imposition in the incident that happened Tuesday on West 58th Street in the Stockyards neighborhood.

The mother of the victim has not been charged with any crimes.
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index..._after_be.html

[Vicky.]

I hope her punishment isn't too severe, preferably non existant tbh. I would have slit the bastards throat, no questions asked. Disgusting person.

[Vicky.]

Ooh I should read the full thread before posting. Good she has not been charged. Hopefully he goes to prison for the rest of his life, but I doubt it. He will be inflicted on society again in a few years.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ooh I should read the full thread before posting. Good she has not been charged. Hopefully he goes to prison for the rest of his life, but I doubt it. He will be inflicted on society again in a few years.

Without a doubt but lets hope he gets a tough time behind bars. Nobody likes a nonce, especially those in prison.