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Old 22-09-2017, 10:11 AM #1
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Transport for London has announced that it will not renew Uber's private hire licence after concluding it is "not fit and proper".

http://news.sky.com/story/transport-...cence-11047580
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Black cab drivers will be cheering.

I expect there will be an appeal, the reasons for no renewing the licence are pretty damning, I wonder what Ubers response will be
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going to do a poem on this and hand deliver - someone call me a cab !
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Uber is a great service, cheap and convenient
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Uber is a great service, cheap and convenient
Is there anyone who hasn't used Uber. TFL seem to be saying they don't vet drivers, cheap and convenient is fine, but what about personal safety?

Not sure if this is a decision driven by something else though

they have 21 days to appeal but their licence runs out next Friday, so what happens then
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Apparently TFL told Uber only one minute before tweeting the news

3.5m people and 40,000 drivers use Uber, they'll all be out of a job now
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Apparently TFL told Uber only one minute before tweeting the news

3.5m people and 40,000 drivers use Uber, they'll all be out of a job now
They would have known a decision was imminent as the licence had been under review since may and a decision was due before the 30/09

this only affects London? or all uber drivers
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Isn't there at least one rape a week by Uber drivers? Whether or not it's right for TFL to rescind their license, Uber should have something in place to vet its drivers.
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They would have known a decision was imminent as the licence had been under review since may and a decision was due before the 30/09

this only affects London? or all uber drivers
I thought it would only cover London but not too sure
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Uber statement:

"3.5 million Londoners who use our app, and more than 40,000 licensed drivers who rely on Uber to make a living, will be astounded by this decision. By wanting to ban our app from the capital Transport for London and the Mayor have caved in to a small number of people who want to restrict consumer choice. If this decision stands, it will put more than 40,000 licensed drivers out of work and deprive Londoners of a convenient and affordable form of transport. To defend the livelihoods of all those drivers, and the consumer choice of millions of Londoners who use our app, we intend to immediately challenge this in the courts… This ban would show the world that, far from being open, London is closed to innovative companies who bring choice to consumers."

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Uber statement:

"3.5 million Londoners who use our app, and more than 40,000 licensed drivers who rely on Uber to make a living, will be astounded by this decision. By wanting to ban our app from the capital Transport for London and the Mayor have caved in to a small number of people who want to restrict consumer choice. If this decision stands, it will put more than 40,000 licensed drivers out of work and deprive Londoners of a convenient and affordable form of transport. To defend the livelihoods of all those drivers, and the consumer choice of millions of Londoners who use our app, we intend to immediately challenge this in the courts… This ban would show the world that, far from being open, London is closed to innovative companies who bring choice to consumers."

TFL made a decision driven by Black cabs I think ..that said the safety issues need addressing
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Bit of a fudge they can continue to trade during the appeal process which will take months, I think Khan bottled it and the decision will be overturned on appeal. Khan can say he tried do get them banned gets the black cabs/mini cabs off his back
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Terrible decision. Uber saves you so much money. Back to getting fleeced and being rejected half the time.

As for safety... it's a recorded journey, with a license plate, driver number and the name and picture of the driver saved. I'm not buying that.
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i predict people power will win in this particular case. People want a service like Uber, if they kill it off, the mayor will be out on his ass at the next election.
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Some of the tweets are awesome
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Terrible decision. Uber saves you so much money. Back to getting fleeced and being rejected half the time.

As for safety... it's a recorded journey, with a license plate, driver number and the name and picture of the driver saved. I'm not buying that.
Yeah i would have thought it's more safe than jumping into a normal cab tbh.

We can't get Uber here but I've used it in london and in the States and it's so handy, always had nice drivers too
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A terrible decision that was made purely to force people to use normal Taxis.

If the Taxi industry is suffering because of Uber then it's down to them to adapt or perish.
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Apparently TFL told Uber only one minute before tweeting the news

3.5m people and 40,000 drivers use Uber, they'll all be out of a job now
Yes they will move to your City now

Its only London etc
some months to go yet , though
we have to get a Date it stops etc.
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'London is open for business' - Sadiq Khan, 2016.

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Apparently TFL told Uber only one minute before tweeting the news

3.5m people and 40,000 drivers use Uber, they'll all be out of a job now
There are 40,000 men who would pass the vetting and be willing to work, why haven't uber hired them?

I fully agree with the decision, in every profession there are safeguarding measures, if uber are not complicit with the requirement for working with the public then they will have to cease trading.
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There are 40,000 men who would pass the vetting and be willing to work, why haven't uber hired them?

I fully agree with the decision, in every profession there are safeguarding measures, if uber are not complicit with the requirement for working with the public then they will have to cease trading.
There is no riling as they can continue to work until the appeal
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In what other industry would this be tolerated? I am at a loss to see why the decision here is seen not as upholding standards but simply damaging business... mind blown.

'Transport for London has announced it will not renew ride-sharing app Uber’s licence, because it had identified a “lack of corporate responsibility” in the company.

The statement highlighted four major areas of concern: the company’s approach to reporting criminal offences, the obtaining of medical certificates, its compliance with Enhanced Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) checks on employees, and its use of controversial Greyball software to "block regulatory access to the app".

Freedom of Information data obtained by The Sun last year showed that the Metropolitan Police investigated 32 drivers for rape or sexual assault of a passenger between May 2015 and May 2016.

In August, Metropolitan Police Inspector Neil Billany wrote to TfL about his concern that the company was failing to properly investigate allegations against its drivers.

He revealed the company had continued to employ a driver after he was accused of sexual assault. According to Inspector Billany, the same driver went on to assault another female passenger before he was removed.

The letter said: "By not reporting to police promptly, Uber are allowing situations to develop that clearly affect the safety and security of the public."


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Dumb. I don't think the ban will last long considering how many others agree. I've never used Uber before, but I definitely would do so before considering a taxi.
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Dumb. I don't think the ban will last long considering how many others agree. I've never used Uber before, but I definitely would do so before considering a taxi.
You might but if you had daughters you might not
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