[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

During the election campaign I met and listened to people in every part of the country.

Struggling single parents, young people held back by lack of opportunity.

Pensioners anxious about health and social care, public servants trying to keep services together.

Low and middle earners, self-employed and employed, facing insecurity and squeezed living standards.

But hopeful that things could change, and that Labour could make a difference.

Many hadn’t voted before, or not for years past.

But they put their faith in our party.

We offered an antidote to apathy and despair.

Let everyone understand - we will not let you down.

Because we listen to you, because we believe in you.

Labour can and will deliver a Britain for the many not just the few.

Corbyn's speech - Snap verdict

That was probably one of the best speeches Jeremy Corbyn given in a lifetime of speechifying, and easily his best as party leader. It was unusually long, even for this gig (75 minutes, according to my count), but it had substance and a few passages of exceptionally good writing.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

[arista]

Alf you funkster

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'll wait until the trollings died down before I comment seriously I think

If this isnt baiting i dont know what is, its been reported but still here....guess it pays to be friends with tibbs moderating team......

Funny how i just got a weeks ban for posting something less baiting...but still got a weeks ban for baiting.......


Why mods, why the **** is this happening????

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Alf

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by smudgie

he was clueless...that's why it was so funny.

It was a hilarious show. Surprised we don't see more of the actor these days.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Alf

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was a hilarious show. Surprised we don't see more of the actor these days.

He was in a pretty famous sitcom for over ten years, My Family only ended a few years back!

He does quite a bit on stage these days.

[parmnion]

Just checking.

[DemolitionRed]

So in response to Corbyn, May is about to contrast her ideas about free market innovation.

"A strong and properly regulated free-market economy is the only way to guarantee higher living standards, Theresa May will say on Thursday as she contrasts her economic approach with the call for more state control made by Labour at this week’s conference"

My question is, is it possible to have free enterprise if its being closely regulated? Whilst anyone with half an ounce of a brain knows that properly regulated markets are good for the economy, 'free regulated markets' is an oxymoron. It seems May's wants everything that Corbyn's offering but properly regulated markets carries with it, connotations of socialism. This is so unconservative of her.

What a conundrum!

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Just checking.

Change your politics you will never warm the naughty step again

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Alf

where do you find them Alf

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Alf

he looks about ready to thump her with that clenched fist.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Change your politics you will never warm the naughty step again

[Alf]

Labours lanyard of hate by Melanie Phillips.

http://www.melaniephillips.com/labours-lanyard-hate/

[Oliver_W]

Free market capitalism is better than having the government breathing down business's necks.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Free market capitalism is better than having the government breathing down business's necks.

You clearly didn't get the contradiction!

As for 'free markets', something May is looking at regulating (and wisely so). When a free market is too relaxed its wide open to monopoly abuse, which is what's been happening here in the UK; Grenfell Tower is a good example. The problem with this is, it creates massive growth for a few and nothing for many. It doesn't deliver to the economy... an economy that desperately needs growth, especially as we go into Brexit.

It seems that the penny has at last dropped for May. If she wants her economy to grow, she knows she has to tighten the reigns.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Alf

Labours lanyard of hate by Melanie Phillips.

http://www.melaniephillips.com/labours-lanyard-hate/

"What they were hanging from their necks was the lanyard of hate. For as Collier observes, these people think that by supporting the Palestinians they are supporting peace; but in fact supporting Palestinianism leads them inexorably to supporting the extermination of Israel."

Wow!! I couldn't read beyond this ^ So if you don't support Israel's exterminating Muslims, it means you must support Hamas extermination of the Jews!?! WTF

The most annoying thing about that blog is, you can't reply.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surprised its not a nazi salute to be honest.

Originally Posted by parmnion

If this isnt baiting i dont know what is, its been reported but still here....guess it pays to be friends with tibbs moderating team......

Funny how i just got a weeks ban for posting something less baiting...but still got a weeks ban for baiting.......


Why mods, why the **** is this happening????

I say it as I see it, some of the comments on the first page were more trolling than serious debate imo.

Nobody is being asked to change their politics, if an ideology is referred to as fascistic there is a backlash even though there is evidence to support the claim... Where is your evidence that Corbyn is s 'nazi'?
Aside from the random pics and laughing smileys there's nothing to gauge opinion of the conference on.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I say it as I see it, some of the comments on the first page were more trolling than serious debate imo.

Nobody is being asked to change their politics, if an ideology is referred to as fascistic there is a backlash even though there is evidence to support the claim... Where is your evidence that Corbyn is s 'nazi'?
Aside from the random pics and laughing smileys there's nothing to gauge opinion of the conference on.

He has a problem with the jews, thats good enough for me to label him a nazi..


Pity you cant take it when someone else says it how they see it...in the way they say it in real life.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He has a problem with the jews, thats good enough for me to label him a nazi..


Pity you cant take it when someone else says it how they see it...in the way they say it in real life.

Loaded emotional words are always used in propaganda.

As Martin Luther King once said, 'Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance'

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Loaded emotional words are always used in propaganda.

As Martin Luther King once said, 'Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance'

Loaded emotional words are always used in propaganda

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

"What they were hanging from their necks was the lanyard of hate. For as Collier observes, these people think that by supporting the Palestinians they are supporting peace; but in fact supporting Palestinianism leads them inexorably to supporting the extermination of Israel."

Wow!! I couldn't read beyond this ^ So if you don't support Israel's exterminating Muslims, it means you must support Hamas extermination of the Jews!?! WTF

The most annoying thing about that blog is, you can't reply.

How is "Israel exterminating muslims" when as of last year, the UN was concerned about how Palestine (and particularly Gaza) has population growth too high for it to sustain?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Loaded emotional words are always used in propaganda.

As Martin Luther King once said, 'Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance'

I take it this was before he died from gunshot.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I take it this was before he died from gunshot.

What do you even mean by that?

[AProducer'sWetDream]

Originally Posted by Alf

http://evolvepolitics.com/conservati...images-online/