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05-12-2017, 08:00 AM | #1 | |||
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The critical mass of this country need to watch and understand what is being said in this video. We need people to wake up and join the dots if we are going to stop this nonsense once and for all. We need to start listening to the economic pioneers who are asking this government and must continue to ask any government that follow them (including Labour because even Labour, to some extent spout this nonsense) some very pertinent questions.
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05-12-2017, 08:22 AM | #2 | |||
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I prefer reading this sort of thing to hearing it, is there a transcript, or a blog saying the same thing, or a tl;dr?
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05-12-2017, 08:34 AM | #3 | ||
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05-12-2017, 08:35 AM | #4 | |||
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sorry is that milliband?
you cannot be serious? |
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05-12-2017, 08:43 AM | #5 | ||
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I'm assuming you didn't click it LT; the thumbnail happens to be Milliband, but he's simply listed as an example of politicians spouting Neoliberal rhetoric ALONGSIDE Thatcher, May et al.
It's quite a party-neutral video; it points out that they're all doing it (Labour, LibDem, Tories). Again though guys... it's a 6 minute long video! I get not eanting to watch an hour long YouTube documentary when they're posted on here, but surely you can watch a 6 min clip before passing comment . |
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05-12-2017, 08:44 AM | #6 | |||
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http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/?s=magic+money+tree http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2...fford-the-nhs/
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05-12-2017, 08:45 AM | #7 | ||
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My comment is simply... it's a good video DR, tries valiantly to explain the absurd situation that is Neoliberal politics in a simple way, however... I can absolutely guarantee that most people who watch this still won't "get it" (or even try to get it).
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05-12-2017, 08:58 AM | #8 | |||
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Unfortunately most won't watch it which is a shame because we clearly have extreme levels of corruption going on at the top. If this video can spark the interest of one person, then it was worth putting up on here. I didn't get it for years. It was only an open interest in economics that had me question fiscal spending or the lack of it. Geez, I didn't even have the understanding of money or know the difference between money and currency and I certainly didn't know how it worked in an economy. I believed austerity was a very real problem!! Its frightening knowing how we are being influenced by those at the top and mass media. It goes to show that big money has great influence; but its more frightening knowing that most people aren't aware and don't want to be aware.
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05-12-2017, 09:05 AM | #9 | |||
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05-12-2017, 09:08 AM | #10 | |||
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Yes I am amazed that people who make a lot of money via business turn out to be selfish, egotistical, semi psychopathic greedy people hating scumbags
id have thought they would be nice people? The video? - a poorly cut and packaged mess to further the agenda of its maker this is why videos like this are dangerous, just like the idiots who watch the BLM videos and think the video is judge and jury case closed |
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05-12-2017, 09:08 AM | #11 | |||
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self-oscillating
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or more likely, just don't agree with it
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05-12-2017, 09:15 AM | #12 | ||
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05-12-2017, 09:20 AM | #13 | ||
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Some will take the time to understand it and disagree with it, sure. Some will take the time to understand it and agree with it.
Most simply won't bother and will continue to parrot other people's mantras and soundbites, or will base their opinion on what they understand of government debt / spending based on equating it to what they understand of personal debt / spending (when they are not actually comparable). |
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05-12-2017, 09:22 AM | #14 | |||
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and who do economists answer to?
oh wait no one If they had thousands of shareholders and thousands of employees i think what they spout my be considerably different... |
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05-12-2017, 09:26 AM | #15 | ||
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LT believing that large companies answer to their employees . The blissful ignorance of self-employment, I guess?
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05-12-2017, 09:51 AM | #16 | |||
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05-12-2017, 10:06 AM | #17 | ||
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At the upper levels maybe but those are the people that neoliberal economics are designed to best serve. At entry and middle management level, they will have no problem with recruitment, because there are abundant people desperately seeking employment - both untrained / unskilled and with degrees or management experience. Under hard neoliberal capitalism, up until the upper management level, staff is a disposable resource, simple as that.
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05-12-2017, 10:15 AM | #18 | |||
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not the fruit machines again? let them live |
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05-12-2017, 10:28 AM | #20 | |||
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05-12-2017, 10:33 AM | #21 | ||
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05-12-2017, 10:41 AM | #22 | |||
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Oh no, I'm English
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I'd prefer liberal Neo politics, where instead of trying to kill bad guys, he would fly around helping old ladies across the road and protesting against the redistribution of wealth to the top 1%
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05-12-2017, 04:43 PM | #23 | |||
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Its fine to disagree but if you are going to disagree, at least have enough understanding or courage to talk about why.
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05-12-2017, 05:04 PM | #24 | |||
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The problem with taxes is, the higher earners are putting their money into tax havens. Every pound of tax money that gets wheedled away in offshore accounts (tax avoidance) is a pound down in our economy. Tax avoidance in this country is massive and no amount of the small earners tax contributions and spending can cover what's being lost. What we are presently doing is subsidizing what the tax avoiders aren't paying. Too little tax and we have to print more money to ward off deflation. Higher taxes can cause inflation. Its a very fine balancing act. Your right, tax balances our economy, without tax they couldn't print money because its an intrinsic part of how our economy works.
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05-12-2017, 08:44 PM | #25 | |||
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If a flat tax rate was in place, high earners would have less reason to avoid tax.
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