[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

"Your News Wire is a clickbait website that is listed on Factcheck.org’s fake news list. (9/10/2016) Update (7/7/2017)"

Come on guyz. Engage brains before posting.

thats great TS but rather than talk about one news source what about the Swedish news source I posted can you "fact check" that one?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

"Your News Wire is a clickbait website that is listed on Factcheck.org’s fake news list. (9/10/2016) Update (7/7/2017)"

Come on guyz. Engage brains before posting.

There's nothing to say the source article from Sverige's Radio posted by LT is fake though.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14

Here is the Swedish news source which the story is based


http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel...rtikel=6096214

opening para states:

A marriage between a 14-year-old girl and a 21-year-old man was approved last year by Swedish authorities. Ekot can reveal today. The case has brought strong feelings, but is just one of several examples in recent years of childhood marriage recognized in Sweden.

Originally Posted by Dancing in Blizzards

This is fake



Thread can be closed

Originally Posted by The_Hogfather

What's more, the Government article is from March, the two in the o/p are from several months later.

Originally Posted by The_Hogfather

There's nothing to say the source article from Sverige's Radio posted by LT is fake though.

The article LT posted is from 2015

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

The article LT posted is from 2015

[Niamh.]

It's almost like you two want it to be true

[Tom4784]

If it's not a story that's been picked up by major sources then it's not likely true. The DM would have loved this story if it could have been verified.

Wanting something to be true so you can complain about it is a world apart from it actually being true.

[Smithy]

What a car crash of a thread

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

The article LT posted is from 2015

So it's been going on for a while then.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The_Hogfather

So it's been going on for a while then.

Probably not because the information Smithy posted-as you pointed out- is from March of this year

[Eddie.]

will a mod please close this thread!
would be disgusted if this was real. Let the children live their lives!

[Tom4784]

This is why fake news is such an issue, too many people want it to be true that they'll spread it regardless of it's validity.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This is why fake news is such an issue, too many people want it to be true that they'll spread it regardless of it's validity.

I know, jeez be happy that this isn't happening for gods sake

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This is why fake news is such an issue, too many people want it to be true that they'll spread it regardless of it's validity.

It’s so easy to copy and paste an article damning something, god forbid you check your facts first before making a fool of tourself

[LeatherTrumpet]

Denmark's dilemma

Denmark's response has swung first one way and then the other.

In February, Integration Minister Inger Stojberg vowed to act after a review found dozens of cases of girls living with older men in asylum seekers' accommodation - which the minister called "totally unacceptable".

Couples would require "exceptional reasons" to live together below the age of 18 (the legal age for marriage in Denmark) and no cohabitation would be allowed whatsoever if one party was below 15.

But separation reportedly prompted two migrants under 18 to attempt suicide.

The policy was reversed earlier this week - with children as young as 14 reunited with their husbands - after the issue was raised with the Danish Immigration Service (DIS) by lawmaker Josephine Fock.

"It is completely outrageous. We are talking about people who have fled to Denmark who are being split from each other. Some of them have children together and investigating individual [asylum] cases takes an unbelievably long time," Ms Fock told Metroxpress news service.

The DIS cited Denmark's "international obligations" as the trigger for its policy change, concluding that enforcing separate living quarters would violate the UN's Convention on the Rights of the Child and Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which guarantees the right to one's "private and family life".

That has prompted conservative politicians to call for Denmark's withdrawal from such treaties.

Data suggest that in Germany there are at least 1,000 marriages where one or both parties are under the legal marriage age of 18, of which more than half are in the southern state of Bavaria.

Unicef figures from the vast Syrian refugee camps in Jordan suggest the proportion of registered marriages where the bride was under 18 rose from 12% in 2011 (roughly the same as the figure in pre-war Syria) to 18% in 2012, and as high as 25% by 2013.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37518289

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14

thats great TS but rather than talk about one news source what about the Swedish news source I posted can you "fact check" that one?

No because

A) I don't read Swedish and neither do you so we're relying on loose translation

B) None of it is even cited, in any way, making the source dubious to begin with

C) Disregarding the above and assuming the source is credible... If you had translated the entire article you would have seen that:

- It indicates that this occurred last year, BEFORE regulations were tightened

- It states that it is NOT legal to marry in Sweden under 18, it's about whether or not already existing marriages are recognised.

- It suggests that this specific case was a mistake / oversight and it's very rare that a marriage under 16 would be recognised. This is not "law" or "policy"; nothing has "been legalised".

- It is clear that it is regrettable when it happens. It's good inattention, a mistake simply.

- It's ALREADY BEEN UNDONE

After the social services in the municipality where 14-year-olds and 21-year-olds were placed questioned the Tax Agency's recognition of marriage, it has now been canceled and 14-year-old has been given a different placement.

So yeah. Fake news. The best fake news sites lie using fragments of truth to make their stories seem more legitimate... but, I'm sure you were already aware of that.

Not that I'm saying we can consider the first site one of the "best"... it also seems to be sayng that Jay Z and Beyonce are shapeshifting reptiles, that mermaids are real, and that a small alien family has been dug up in Peru. SMFH.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dancing in Blizzards

It’s so easy to copy and paste an article damning something, god forbid you check your facts first before making a fool of tourself

God forbid in a race to win the virtue signal olympic gold medal you ignore the actual disgusting problem that every country who welcome in hoardes of economic migrants face :/




well done to Oliver for highlighting this terrible issue in Europe

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14

God forbid in a race to win the virtue signal olympic gold medal you ignore the actual disgusting problem that every country who welcome in hoardes of economic migrants face :/




well done to Oliver for highlighting this terrible issue in Europe

Whether or not it's a real and valid issue, highlighting it using clickbait and fake news sites is the wrong way to go, and actually cheapens the issue and makes it seem less legitimate. Stick to proper, cited, non-sensationalist news sources and there might be a discussion to be had. Otherwise, I suggest we all turn out attention back to Beyonce's increasing apathy when it comes to hiding her shapeshifting abilities. She did it IN PUBLIC, guys! Jay Z did it on a plane . All of the passengers saw and he doesn't even seem to care.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Whether or not it's a real and valid issue, highlighting it using clickbait and fake news sites is the wrong way to go, and actually cheapens the issue and makes it seem less legitimate. Stick to proper, cited, non-sensationalist news sources and there might be a discussion to be had. Otherwise, I suggest we all turn out attention back to Beyonce's increasing apathy when it comes to hiding her shapeshifting abilities. She did it IN PUBLIC, guys! Jay Z did it on a plane . All of the passengers saw and he doesn't even seem to care.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Whether or not it's a real and valid issue, highlighting it using clickbait and fake news sites is the wrong way to go, and actually cheapens the issue and makes it seem less legitimate. Stick to proper, cited, non-sensationalist news sources and there might be a discussion to be had. Otherwise, I suggest we all turn out attention back to Beyonce's increasing apathy when it comes to hiding her shapeshifting abilities. She did it IN PUBLIC, guys! Jay Z did it on a plane . All of the passengers saw and he doesn't even seem to care.

i think as adults we can see the story from the news source

stop trying to obfuscate the issue

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Isaiah 7:14

i think as adults we can see the story from the news source

stop trying to obfuscate the issue

Touting sensationalism over facts is obfuscation; not the other way round.

[Toy Soldier]

I was wrong. He does care.

Dozens of United Airlines passengers claim they saw Jay-Z shapeshift into a reptilian as the rapper and music mogul travelled between New York City and Los Angeles on Friday.

One witness, writing about the experience on Twitter, said “the **** hit the fan in business class” when Jay-Z “lost control” and began shapeshifting in front of the other business class passengers. “V scary. He kept changing shape. He knew more and more people were watching and he got angrier and angrier when he couldn’t stop.”

http://yournewswire.com/jayz-shapesh...ited-airlines/

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Touting sensationalism over facts is obfuscation; not the other way round.

Its good to see you standing beside Mr D Trump in his condemnation of fake news

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Its good to see you standing beside Mr D Trump in his condemnation of fake news

I dunno if this is supposed to be a jibe; if a news source is genuinely fake, it should be condemned, by Trump and everyone else . I am indeed in full agreement with Donny on that one.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It doesn't seem like any major news outlets have picked the story up which makes me doubt it's validity but if it's true then it's ****ing stupid. Children are not emotionally prepared or can understand what marriage truly entails. This only benefits peadophiles.

Exactly

News Wire has been named and shamed by various other sources as an alarmist fake news outlet.

Spesia is a fairly new aggresive media news channel that's recently became a laughing stock after reporting grand mufti of Saudi Arabia issued a fatwa as per which a man can eat his wife in extreme conditions. It keeps coming up with similar stories about the Middle East.

People really need to research these news channels because some of them are desperate for a captive headline.

As for Muslims marrying adolescent girls (which is not pedophilia btw if that adolescent is of pubesant age), I think its wrong and I don't think we should be encouraging it in Europe.

[jaxie]

If true, I wonder what would happen if a 30 year old Swedish man decides he can also marry a 12 year old. It sounds like they are opening a very worrying door for religious/cultural appeasement.

I knew a Turkish Muslim girl in my youth who was taken out of the UK at 14 and married to a 29 year old man abroad then brought back and he followed. She was forced into the sexual side of marriage and told me she didn't like it. It goes on, no one stops it. She was a playmate in the flats, then she vanished for weeks and she came back a very different girl, very sexually aware. I was a child, it was shocking. Same thing happened to her 13 year old sister.

This isn't a story it's a fact. This kind of thing isn't legalised but it is happening. Just like girls are taken out of the country to have fgm performed on them. At some level someone in authority must know because these husband's get into the country based on the marriage. Not sure how they manage it with the current income requirements but don't doubt there are loopholes found.

It's child abuse performed by families with the state turning a blind eye. The tragedy is it ruins these girls lives as they are often abandoned with lots of young children to care for and little hope of any kind of career/job.