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18-12-2017, 10:36 AM | #1 | |||
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I'm mostly thinking of Labour because there's an article out about it today, but it could also apply to the Tories during the run up to the Brexit vote.
Do you think the members of the (Shadow/) Cabinet and other prominent party members should be given a "party line" so to speak to tow regarding Brexit? Quote:
Even if they personally disagree with the party line, they could say something like "Labour's doing this, but I'm putting the case to Jeremy for us to do this." That's not a million miles from what Dianne Abbott said, as she stated she would "argue for the right to vote on deals." Last edited by Oliver_W; 18-12-2017 at 10:37 AM. |
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18-12-2017, 11:07 AM | #2 | |||
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There really isn't a party line and one isn't necessary either.
We are coming out of the EU, that's set in stone. What's not set in stone, and everyone seems to be implying is, is our relationship with the EU and the rest of the world post brexit. Of course people are not going to agree on that, and it is something that will evolve over the coming decades. People are wasting far to much energy on completely pointless arguments. |
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18-12-2017, 12:15 PM | #3 | |||
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Labour are more together on brexit than the govt atm.... If you ignore warmonger blair that is :/
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18-12-2017, 12:26 PM | #4 | ||
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Diane Abbott’s comments poorly worded??
Never! It’s an issue that obviously people from within all parties aren’t going to agree on. However when MP’s are interviewed it’s usually to represent the views of their party so we(the public) know where the party stands and what their Brexit strategy is.So there does have to be a party line. This is why in nearly every interview or question time you hear “well obviously i was a remainer/leaver but....” as they’re trying to balance their party,constituencies and personal views all in one interview.But they need to be clear about their parties position. The problem with Labour is they keep changing their Brexit position and nobody really knows wtf their position actually is.They keep contradicting each other and getting called out on it by Andrew Neil,Jo Coburn and David Dimbleby which leaves us all confused. |
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18-12-2017, 12:37 PM | #5 | |||
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I watched that interview she couldn't have been more clear?.... Is the guy all there? She was clear as day as to Corbyns Labour stance.
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18-12-2017, 01:20 PM | #6 | ||
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I don't know how the Conservatives can claim to have any solid stance on Brexit, given that we all know the PM herself was enthusiastically waving the "remain" banner all through the Brexit campaign. We all know that she isn't on board with it, didn't want it, and is now just getting on with it because that's how the vote went. Any claim by her that she is all for Brexit and super-happy about all of it... is an out and out lie .
Likewise, it's fairly evident that at his very core... Corbyn is not pro-EU. I dunno where this new narrative that Tories were "the Brexit party" and Labour "the remain party" ever came from... people have very short memories, I guess... many high-profile Tories, like May, were very much on the Remain bus before the vote. It wasn't and still isn't an issue that divides neatly along party lines, at all. |
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18-12-2017, 01:57 PM | #7 | ||
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The Tories apart from the rebels and Ken Clarke and Anna Soubry but the actual government seem to on the face of it have a clearer party line than Labour but we all know the PM has had to take a stance she disagrees with and probably would not be disappointed with a softer Brexit wheras Davis and Mogg are hardline Leavers. The government though atleast in public do seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet even if we know better |
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18-12-2017, 02:09 PM | #8 | |||
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18-12-2017, 03:05 PM | #9 | ||
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None of the parties have a solid stance on Brexit, it seems silly to point out one party when they are all divided over it.
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