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Old 13-01-2018, 01:53 PM #26
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Any act of terrorism is a direct attack on all uk law abiding citizens. This is a very odd case, would like to know what evidence was lacking for the attempted murder charge to not be pursued.

Some crazy judicial decisions have been in the press recently and its quite worrying
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Send him back to Poland, let them keep him. We don't need to import bigots we've plenty already.
Amen to that! Never hold a mirror up to them though they hate that.
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Please demonstrate where I have attacked you here. Or are my last couple of posts evidence of that in your opinion. Is so, that speaks volumes about your definition of ‘evidence’.
Calling me naive when I asked you for evidence of your claims was what I was referring to. If you called me naive and then offered up something of substance to justify it then I wouldn't have cared but you just called me that to cover for the fact that you are making up your argument as you go along.

I don't see how what I said undermines my request for evidence of your claims. I think you've just latched onto that word and tried to turn the argument against me by bringing up evidence in an out of context way that doesn't really make much sense.

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Send him back to Poland, let them keep him. We don't need to import bigots we've plenty already.
I agree tbh.
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Calling me naive when I asked you for evidence of your claims was what I was referring to. If you called me naive and then offered up something of substance to justify it then I wouldn't have cared but you just called me that to cover for the fact that you are making up your argument as you go along.

I don't see how what I said undermines my request for evidence of your claims. I think you've just latched onto that word and tried to turn the argument against me by bringing up evidence in an out of context way that doesn't really make much sense.
Calling you naive is no more attacking, probably a lot less so, than you calling me a racist as you have on many occasions. The rest is nonsense in my opinion.
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Terrorists don't need to be organised for it to be terrorism though, most muslim attacks are also committed by lone nutters.

I don't think weighing crimes against each other on a scale is the best way of looking at things either, crimes are still crimes. Terrorism is still terrorism.
Oh yeah, all terrorists undoubtedly. Right now though we've got people building bombs on one side, and on the other we've got people like the hero at the centre of this story. I don't want them getting any more organised than they are. I wasn't really weighing the cases against each other I was pointing out that when there were an incident in France where a man drove a lorry through a crowd, there were some claims that it wasn't terrorism, it was one lone wolf, probably with mental problems. It's all terrorism. I think we agree on that.
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Oh yeah, all terrorists undoubtedly. Right now though we've got people building bombs on one side, and on the other we've got people like the hero at the centre of this story. I don't want them getting any more organised than they are. I wasn't really weighing the cases against each other I was pointing out that when there were an incident in France where a man drove a lorry through a crowd, there were some claims that it wasn't terrorism, it was one lone wolf, probably with mental problems. It's all terrorism. I think we agree on that.
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It's all scary and very worrying .

It also makes me lose faith in the justice system and makes me angry at low life violent terrorists being released!! . They're evil psychopaths !.

There shouldn't even be a question as they should all NEVER set foot in public again. Throw the damn Key away!! They're a danger to society!! . How can it be allowed to put the public at such high risk!!! the mind baffles !!! .

I feel like there's always some horrific massacre attack before authorities catch these scum bags and put them in prison and sentence them properly .
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It's all scary and very worrying .

It also makes me lose faith in the justice system and makes me angry at low life violent terrorists being released!! . They're evil psychopaths !.

There shouldn't even be a question as they should all NEVER set foot in public again. Throw the damn Key away!! They're a danger to society!! . How can it be allowed to put the public at such high risk!!! the mind baffles !!! .

I feel like there's always some horrific massacre attack before authorities catch these scum bags and put them in prison and sentence them properly .
In defence of the justice system, he was charged with dangerous driving, domestic violence and drink driving.
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In defence of the justice system, he was charged with dangerous driving, domestic violence and drink driving.
He admitted drink driving, it doesn't say he was charged with doing it, I'm sorry when a guy says 'see that man over there I'm going to kill him, and then proceed to do precisely that and only get charged with dangerous driving... that's indefensible, what are they doing trying to destroy faith in the justice system like the rest of public services?

That's what these bonkers decisions do they undermine public confidence in the justice system as justice isn't seen to be done. I know you think I have a downer on this country I don't I love it and the people in it, I just hate it when decisions like this damage the integrity of our institutions.
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Calling you naive is no more attacking, probably a lot less so, than you calling me a racist as you have on many occasions. The rest is nonsense in my opinion.
If I call you a racist, I'm going to back it up with things you've said, like I said in the post you quoted but obviously didn't read. I wouldn't have considered naive an attack if you actually bothered to qualify it. Also, stop with trying to turn the word racist or accusations of racism into a dirty word, it's not going to happen no matter how hard you try to make it so.

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Well this country seems to have a track record of letting terrorists wander around freely.The hundreds of ISIS members who’ve come back from Syria for example.

Non of them should be free including the maniac in the op.
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