[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Jonny didnt get in a strop, he simply stated that the public may not view Andrew saving himself kindly. Which is true. If Andrew chooses not to take his advice its up to him. Not sure how it can be seen as a big deal

BB should turn the tables and still have Andrew up for eviction , he's a selfish pig with a big irritating fat mouth !!! .

[rusticgal]

Jonny didn't strop off....I just think Jonny is a less selfish person. I think he was just telling Andrew the right thing to do would be to save someone other than yourself...not only is it a nice gesture it gains you a bit of respect and brownie points with the public.
It is a game...and saving yourself is a natural thing to want to do...does he doubt his support?...the only thing he would achieve by saving himself is more airtime..more exposure. There is no winners prize. Trouble is buying himself more airtime is a negative rather than a positive because the guy is a bigger dick by the day....so you see Jonny's advice was the best advice he's ever had

[bots]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

BB should turn the tables and still have Andrew up for eviction , he's a selfish pig with a big irritating fat mouth !!! .

if andrew were to save himself from this eviction, its a certainty that all the hm's would nominate him for the next, so I just can't get excited about the prospect of Andrew saving himself

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Jonny didn't strop off....I just think Jonny is a less selfish person. I think he was just telling Andrew the right thing to do would be to save someone other than yourself...not only is it a nice gesture it gains you a bit of respect and brownie points with the public.
It is a game...and saving yourself is a natural thing to want to do...does he doubt his support?...the only thing he would achieve by saving himself is more airtime..more exposure. There is no winners prize. Trouble is buying himself more airtime is a negative rather than a positive because the guy is a bigger dick by the day....so you see Jonny's advice was the best advice he's ever had

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if andrew were to save himself from this eviction, its a certainty that all the hm's would nominate him for the next, so I just can't get excited about the prospect of Andrew saving himself

He needs to go this Friday! . He shouldn't be allowed to save himself, I keep hoping for a nice twist to upset him and make him lose his place in the house .

[Vanessa]

I still think that if you have the chance you should save yourself. And that goes for all the housemates.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I still think that if you have the chance you should save yourself. And that goes for all the housemates.

That would be my second thought, I'd save someone else first .

[jaxie]

I wonder what Jonny would think of Andrew if he knew Andrew was one of those who put Daniel up in the first place.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That would be my second thought, I'd save someone else first .

Me too. It's a selfish act that wouldn't gain public support...is he really that thick.
...and that's just why he didn't get far on The Apprentice.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I wonder what Jonny would think of Andrew if he knew Andrew was one of those who put Daniel up in the first place.

I thought it was Daniel that put Andrew up....I don't think Andrew nominated Daniel?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Me too. It's a selfish act that wouldn't gain public support...is he really that thick.
...and that's just why he didn't get far on The Apprentice.

He was so stupid on The Apprentice !! I was ecstatic when he got FIRED ! . Definitely selfish AF and I dislike him more in CBB .

Do you remember the BB6 twist where Eugene took half of the winning money and took 50 grand and he seemed unsure about his decision.

At the time I was thinking there's no way I'd take 50 grand , I'd rather leave it . So that way nobody can say I stole half of the winning prize .

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I thought it was Daniel that put Andrew up....I don't think Andrew nominated Daniel?

They put each other up.

[MTVN]

I don't think Andrew really appreciated Johnnys point that he wasn't making an ethical argument for saving someone else but that he should look at it from the point of view of his public perception. Still I don't think the public really think less of someone for saving themselves though and Johnny got weirdly worked up about it calling Andrew stupid etc. Don't know why it bothered him so much

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think Andrew really appreciated Johnnys point that he wasn't making an ethical argument for saving someone else but that he should look at it from the point of view of his public perception. Still I don't think the public really think less of someone for saving themselves though and Johnny got weirdly worked up about it calling Andrew stupid etc. Don't know why it bothered him so much

I think whoever wins should be able to make their own choice. Johnny was trying to force Andrew to save his his mate.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jaxie

They put each other up.

Oh I didn't realise.....well he isn't going to save Daniel then is he

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I don't think Andrew really appreciated Johnnys point that he wasn't making an ethical argument for saving someone else but that he should look at it from the point of view of his public perception. Still I don't think the public really think less of someone for saving themselves though and Johnny got weirdly worked up about it calling Andrew stupid etc. Don't know why it bothered him so much

Maybe Jonny's just seeing a side to him he doesn't like....maybe it was more than just the 'saving' himself. Watching him become a bigger twat day in and day out...maybe that was just the icing on the cake.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think whoever wins should be able to make their own choice. Johnny was trying to force Andrew to save his his mate.

Don't be so ridiculous....did he have him in a headlock?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I say he's a snake. Not to be trusted. He would throw anyone unter a bus to win.

Is that not the point of the game though? Also, Andrew has admitted he would do anything to win. Both the same They have entered a game and they want to win - which is perfectly fine.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Maybe Jonny's just seeing a side to him he doesn't like....maybe it was more than just the 'saving' himself. Watching him become a bigger twat day in and day out...maybe that was just the icing on the cake.

That was written all over johnnys face last night rustic....hes had enough...no wonder, the lads a cock.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by parmnion

That was written all over johnnys face last night rustic....hes had enough...no wonder, the lads a cock.

It was....it's interesting the relationship that has apparently broken down between Daniel and Andrew too. It's not like we have seen anything happen between them...in fact I thought the 'lads' all got on. Obviously Daniels had enough of him too....looks like his mates are dropping like flies as they all see what we are seeing...that he is a complete knob

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Is that not the point of the game though? Also, Andrew has admitted he would do anything to win. Both the same They have entered a game and they want to win - which is perfectly fine.

I have never agreed with stabbing your friends in the back in the House. It's always been the way i see it since the first Big Brother.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

It was....it's interesting the relationship that has apparently broken down between Daniel and Andrew too. It's not like we have seen anything happen between them...in fact I thought the 'lads' all got on. Obviously Daniels had enough of him too....looks like his mates are dropping like flies as they all see what we are seeing...that he is a complete knob

He'll still glide to the final sadly though .

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I think the point Jonny was trying to make was that, by saving himself, Andrew would gain short term but might lose support from viewers longer term. I believe he walked off as Andrew talks rather than listens and he got frustrated with that.

Yep

I think he was trying to give Andrew sound advice but Andrew was too busy being his usual twatish self.Jonny walked off to distance himself from Andrews self obsessed wankery.Imo

[bots]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yep

I think he was trying to give Andrew sound advice but Andrew was too busy being his usual twatish self.Jonny walked off to distance himself from Andrews self obsessed wankery.Imo

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Yep

I think he was trying to give Andrew sound advice but Andrew was too busy being his usual twatish self.Jonny walked off to distance himself from Andrews self obsessed wankery.Imo

Sums Andrew up pretty well