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Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 07:37 AM

great moments for Ashley vs Ann & Jonny now wow

bots · 21-01-2018, 07:38 AM

There was no bullying

Ammi · 21-01-2018, 07:52 AM

..there wasn’t any bullying, Nicky...but if there had been bullying..?..For you to actively support it in asking it to continue would be so wrong, do you not see that...?..Ashley does not deserve to be bullied and fortunately she’s not being...

...Ann isn’t the only person who has become irritated with her for the same reason though..It was similar with Amanda when Jess was upset and Amanda told her to leave it../give her some space etc...Ashley was quite affronted because she was Ashley’s friend and only trying to help...but at that moment in time, Jess’ body language in covering her face was saying ..just leave me for a Moment...allowing for others isn’t something Ashley is strong at...ok, she had only spoken twice herself with the for or against ...but she was then deciding who the next person to talk would be to the point of helping make it an issue...again, not considering the wishes of others...and then continuing her annoyance afterward with the three males...I’m very selfless or whatever she said which Andrew was agreeing with...but just not seeing that. Selfless person as she was describing herself, would consider the wishes of others at the forefront.../...actually mKing Ann the more fitting of that description because she usually uses her voice for other self and not herself.../...anyway, no bullying involved though and Ashley isn’t a bad person all...she just shouldn’t always feel the need to control in certain areas in the way she seems to...

Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 07:53 AM

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..there wasn’t any bullying, Nicky...but if there had been bullying..?..For you to actively support it in asking it to continue would be so wrong, do you not see that...?..Ashley does not deserve to be bullied and fortunately she’s not being...

...Ann isn’t the only person who has become irritated with her for the same reason though..It was similar with Amanda when Jess was upset and Amanda told her to leave it../give her some space etc...Ashley was quite affronted because she was Ashley’s friend and only trying to help...but at that moment in time, Jess’ body language in covering her face was saying ..just leave me for a Moment...allowing for others isn’t something Ashley is strong at...ok, she had only spoken twice herself with the for or against ...but she was then deciding who the next person to talk would be to the point of helping make it an issue...again, not considering the wishes of others...and then continuing her annoyance afterward with the three males...I’m very selfless or whatever she said which Andrew was agreeing with...but just not seeing that. Selfless person as she was describing herself, would consider the wishes of others at the forefront.../...actually mKing Ann the more fitting of that description because she usually uses her voice for other self and not herself.../...anyway, no bullying involved though and Ashley isn’t a bad person all...she just shouldn’t always feel the need to control in certain areas in the way she seems to...

Ashley makes bad choices in the house, therefore she deserves to be treated horribly by Ann and now thankfully Jonny

-Sue- · 21-01-2018, 07:56 AM

I am lost for words...

Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 07:57 AM

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I am lost for words...

be happy for me i support older hm's now

Ammi · 21-01-2018, 07:57 AM

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oh yes there is, and i am proud of Ann, Amanda, Jonny for treating Ashley this bad, what ashley deserves

...ok, so if a ‘group’ of members thought you had made a silly thread, Nicky...for instance...and they started to bully you because of it....?...you would actually be proud of them for bullying you....?...and if it all caused you to leave the forum, you would think it deserved because of a bit of silliness and your unhappiness deserved..?...please give it some thought, Nicky...

Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 07:58 AM

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...ok, so if a ‘group’ of members thought you had made a silly thread, Nicky...for instance...and they started to bully you because of it....?...you would actually be proud of them for bullying you....?...and if it all caused you to leave the forum, you would think it deserved because of a bit of silliness and your unhappiness deserved..?...please give it some thought, Nicky...

i wouldn't care what others think about me

Ammi · 21-01-2018, 08:00 AM

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i wouldn't care what others think about me

...even if that were true Nicky...not caring about the actions of and feeling pride pride for the actions of are two different things, Nicky...

RichardG · 21-01-2018, 08:01 AM

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i wouldn't care what others think about me

ironic you should say that because you care the most what people think about you out of everyone on this site

but in the process of trying to be 'popular' you just end up looking quite nasty

Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

...even if that were true Nicky...not caring about the actions of and feeling pride pride for the actions of are two different things, Nicky...

my disappointment in Ashley just comes out i admit, i know who she really is, seeing her YouTube videos, so i can definitely tell all of you, she's fake in the house, acting like someone's she isn't

Beso · 21-01-2018, 08:09 AM

Aww nicky...its against the rules to wish harm on the housemates....please be careful.

Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 08:12 AM

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Aww nicky...its against the rules to wish harm on the housemates....please be careful.

Ammi · 21-01-2018, 08:12 AM

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my disappointment in Ashley just comes out i admit, i know who she really is, seeing her YouTube videos, so i can definitely tell all of you, she's fake in the house, acting like someone's she isn't

..you know what, Nicky..I’m not going to spend anymore time on this conversation because you’ve thought that her YouTube vids have showed her a lovely person and with those same vids, now as an awful person...so I’m just going to leave you to work it all out yourself ...

...there is no bullying going on but no one deserves to be bullied...the worst Ashley has done is to have displayed actions from time to time which will mean she won’t win the show and that’s all...Ashley aside, it’s also labelling Ann, Amanda and Johnny as bullies...something which is quite awful for them as they are far from being that...

...you have a good day, Nicky...maybe use some time thinking about it...?...

Amy Jade · 21-01-2018, 08:15 AM

Nobody deserves to be bullied. I was bullied through school and it destroyed my confidence for a long time, even now I sometimes feel it in the back of my mind when I go out with my friends I relive being called ugly and second guess myself.

Supporting any sort of bullying is awful, Nicky.

Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 08:17 AM

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..you know what, Nicky..I’m not going to spend anymore time on this conversation because you’ve thought that her YouTube vids have showed her a lovely person and with those same vids, now as an awful person...so I’m just going to leave you to work it all out yourself ...

...there is no bullying going on but no one deserves to be bullied...the worst Ashley has done is to have displayed actions from time to time which will mean she won’t win the show and that’s all...Ashley aside, it’s also labelling Ann, Amanda and Johnny as bullies...something which is quite awful for them as they are far from being that...

...you have a good day, Nicky...maybe use some time thinking about it...?...

i will think about it

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Nobody deserves to be bullied. I was bullied through school and it destroyed my confidence for a long time, even now I sometimes feel it in the back of my mind when I go out with my friends I relive being called ugly and second guess myself.

Supporting any sort of bullying is awful, Nicky.

i was bullied too Amy, and sorry but i feel double about Ashley as seen from her work i want to love her, but seeing her in the house i want nothing to do with her

Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 08:21 AM

if only Ashley showed the real her i would proudly support her, and she would be much more popular

AnnieK · 21-01-2018, 08:27 AM

The bullying card is pulled out all too often and I think it actually is detrimental to people who are actually being bullied as it desensitises the word so when people say "I am being bullied" people don't react the same anymore.

Nicky, if you were bullied at school you will know the harm and isolation it causes, more often than not for a very long time and for you to then justify and encourage bullying of another does not make you look good or cool.

You have the absolute right to support whoever you like but this thread is so wrong.

Thankfully, Ashley is not being bullied. They had all had a drink and she was being annoying, but so were some of the others too. Crossed words were had and that is all it was.

AnnieK · 21-01-2018, 08:28 AM

Ah you've changed the OP now so a lot of the posts don't make sense now

Nicky91 · 21-01-2018, 08:32 AM

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The bullying card is pulled out all too often and I think it actually is detrimental to people who are actually being bullied as it desensitises the word so when people say "I am being bullied" people don't react the same anymore.

Nicky, if you were bullied at school you will know the harm and isolation it causes, more often than not for a very long time and for you to then justify and encourage bullying of another does not make you look good or cool.

You have the absolute right to support whoever you like but this thread is so wrong.

Thankfully, Ashley is not being bullied. They had all had a drink and she was being annoying, but so were some of the others too. Crossed words were had and that is all it was.

i will support Ashley because i have seen good in her outside this show, what they do in this show shouldn't matter, at least not to me

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Ah you've changed the OP now so a lot of the posts don't make sense now

no i still feel like it was bullying from ann & jonny, Andrew towards Jess

and Ashley stood up for her friend, so even if you not like her, that credit should be given to her for being a good friend in there

i think Ashley herself also might have a good common sense, and maybe she just wants to have fun and have a good time, friendship with G, Jess, Malika

Amanda was also drunk but i forgive her because she had fun

-Sue- · 21-01-2018, 08:42 AM

Nicky you started this thread off saying Ashley deserved to be bullied.. and your fave HM was amanda yet you ended the thread with back supporting ashley and changing your OP!

godzooks kid make up your mind..sure you can support who you want but please if you must make sweeping statements like 'someone deserving to get bullied' make sure you can back up what you say

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