[LeatherTrumpet]

The difference to all of you and shane J is Ann did something to make a change

Asd i have said - she stuck up her hand a volunteered

You may disagree with her politics and religion but yiou cant not admire her for making the effort

So far Shane has done nothing, nothing at all


This is the year of the woman and Ann is a woman in a mans game (still) and she has done very well and should be celebrated and not hounded for doing her job for the people of this country. WHen Ann was being pilloried for being a woman with a view you lot (mostly) and shane J were sh1tting in your nappies


jesus wept

[Tom4784]

Yes, let's admire Ann for making an effort to prevent equal rights by voting against pretty much every gay rights issue that came up while she was in Parliament and for endorsing psychological abuse via conversion therapy

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes, let's admire Ann for making an effort to prevent equal rights by voting against pretty much every gay rights issue that came up while she was in Parliament and for endorsing psychological abuse via conversion therapy

Who's admiring Ann for that? I'd love to see an example???

Back up your statement please.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Who's admiring Ann for that? I'd love to see an example???

Back up your statement please.

Literally the post above mine that you quoted?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The difference to all of you and shane J is Ann did something to make a change

Asd i have said - she stuck up her hand a volunteered

You may disagree with her politics and religion but yiou cant not admire her for making the effort

So far Shane has done nothing, nothing at all


This is the year of the woman and Ann is a woman in a mans game (still) and she has done very well and should be celebrated and not hounded for doing her job for the people of this country. WHen Ann was being pilloried for being a woman with a view you lot (mostly) and shane J were sh1tting in your nappies


jesus wept

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes, let's admire Ann for making an effort to prevent equal rights by voting against pretty much every gay rights issue that came up while she was in Parliament and for endorsing psychological abuse via conversion therapy

Yup

her opinion is like yours worth only one vote

she made sure her vote counted

what have you done?

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Literally the post above mine that you quoted?

Nope, not the way I see it. That's admiration for the woman for getting into politics, not admiration for her voting record.

[pontyboi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I found this video interesting of Christopher Biggins views on marriage,very much like Anns so not all gay people agree with Shane J,they have the decency to appreciate we don't all want the same things,it looks like he has the same views as Amanda and Wayne.

Youtube video

It's not just a gay thing though straight people don't want to marry either.

Why is it all focused on the people who are "different" Shane j has his views he's not harming anyone so let him get on with it....same as any other commited couple.

Ann is in no position to pass judgement either she has no experience in the matter.

[Marches]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

It's not just a gay thing though straight people don't want to marry either.

Why is it all focused on the people who are "different" Shane j has his views he's not harming anyone so let him get on with it....same as any other commited couple.

Ann is in no position to pass judgement either she has no experience in the matter.

Ann’s views aren’t harming anyone either, she’s no longer in parliament the things she voted on didn’t win and she doesn’t force it down anyone’s throat, unlike a certain someone

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

It's not just a gay thing though straight people don't want to marry either.

Why is it all focused on the people who are "different" Shane j has his views he's not harming anyone so let him get on with it....same as any other commited couple.

Ann is in no position to pass judgement either she has no experience in the matter.

What????

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[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by pontyboi

It's not just a gay thing though straight people don't want to marry either.

Why is it all focused on the people who are "different" Shane j has his views he's not harming anyone so let him get on with it....same as any other commited couple.

Ann is in no position to pass judgement either she has no experience in the matter.

Ann has said she has had a boyfriend. The fact she didn't get married is no reason to say she has no experience.

At least her brains are not led like those who cannot see further than what's in their pants.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

It's aggressive attacks like that that earn you no respect...everyone has different beliefs and opinions...live and let live.

Tbf if people lived by this notion then there wouldn’t be a need for people fighting for basic human rights in the first place.

Having said that, Ann’s opinion is her own and I agree that people should (to an extent) be entitled to their own viewpoints

[Smithy]

Ah yes racist old Biggins who got kicked out of the house for his bigoted comments, a shining example of acceptance

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Ah yes racist old Biggins who got kicked out of the house for his bigoted comments, a shining example of acceptance

I don't remember that being about race?

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[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Paula D

I don't remember that being about race?

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Oh, apologies it was biphobic comments and nazi jokes, that’s much better

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Oh, apologies it was biphobic comments and nazi jokes, that’s much better

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Oh, apologies it was biphobic comments and nazi jokes, that’s much better

Well at least it's not a lie like you just made up.

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[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I found this video interesting of Christopher Biggins views on marriage,very much like Anns so not all gay people agree with Shane J,they have the decency to appreciate we don't all want the same things,it looks like he has the same views as Amanda and Wayne.

Youtube video

Ann voted against civil partnerships too, though?

But you'll probably ignore that.

[Marsh.]

"We can't just get rid of everything. We have to hold onto something!"

Said the white man shipping a cargo of black slaves in from Africa.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Paula D

Well at least it's not a lie like you just made up.

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I mean, in Smithy's defence, there was a wide rumour going around that Biggins was racist with a fake transcript and all

Lets not forget the anti-Semitic comments he made though

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The difference to all of you and shane J is Ann did something to make a change

Asd i have said - she stuck up her hand a volunteered

You may disagree with her politics and religion but yiou cant not admire her for making the effort

So far Shane has done nothing, nothing at all


This is the year of the woman and Ann is a woman in a mans game (still) and she has done very well and should be celebrated and not hounded for doing her job for the people of this country. WHen Ann was being pilloried for being a woman with a view you lot (mostly) and shane J were sh1tting in your nappies


jesus wept

No she didn't. She stuck her neck out to PREVENT change.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I found this video interesting of Christopher Biggins views on marriage,very much like Anns so not all gay people agree with Shane J,they have the decency to appreciate we don't all want the same things,it looks like he has the same views as Amanda and Wayne.

Youtube video

This is refreshing , but I always knew not everyone had the same hardcore views as Shane J .

But people will continue to winge and moan , even though theres different views within the LGBT community itself .

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Livia

People are allowed to hold opposing views. So what are we all doing here discussing Ann's views? The ones that she's allowed to hold?

Now they've taken the offence they're entitled to, what do they want to do with it? Shane speaking to people individually about Ann, trying to get them to agree with him... what does he... and you... and people arguing his case on here... want them to do with Ann? Do they want her to repent? Do they want her thrown out of the house? Now that everyone is quite clear that they are offended, what now?

So true

Guess there are 2 options:

1. Move on
2. Not move on

[letmein]

Christopher Biggins who was thrown off the show for being antisemetic. Yeah, I really want to hear the views of a bigot like Ann.

[letmein]

Originally Posted by Marches

Ann’s views aren’t harming anyone either, she’s no longer in parliament the things she voted on didn’t win and she doesn’t force it down anyone’s throat, unlike a certain someone

Two things: Ann's views and votes led to gay suicide and the suffering of people. Second, her views have totally ruined the show. Everyone is walking on eggshells around her and can't be themselves because they're worried about offending her.