[Withano]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Maybe we should be teaching children to stand up to bullies and stereotypes instead of cowering from them?

Oh god, obviously this. Idk why it needs to be discussed further. Johnny can do wtf he wants, and Parminion needs to stop bullying him at school.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Do you need me to spell out that he would end up either battered or emotionally scarred given time...little johnny can please himself but things in the real world aint all as rosy or as simple as courtney was saying tonight.

Many kids and teenagers give 0-1 ****s these days. And if they do, then they'll be punished. Children like Jonny shouldn't live in fear of getting hit across the head by a homophobe, especially when he probably won't

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And telling everyone that a man dressing as a woman "is not ok" is really helping to change society to become more accepting of others?

Thankfully, the younger generations are raised a lot more open minded and are ever more accepting than the older generations. This will only improve as time passes.

Can't agree with that.

Look at how unaccepting the younger generation are of democratic results like Brexit or Trump. The cry like spoilt brats.

And don't forget the older generations were fighting for these same rights before you were a glint in the milkman's eye.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Shane j telling gay 14yr old boys to dress like a woman is a lot more surpressng to them than me advising them to be safe....hence the msg to the youngest on the forum in my op..
.but yeah...carry on name calling...i wont bite this time im enjoying it here atm.

Shane isnt telling anybody how to dress, only you are doing that

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Can't agree with that.

Look at how unaccepting the younger generation are of democratic results like Brexit or Trump. The cry like spoilt brats.

And don't forget the older generations were fighting for these same rights before you were a glint in the milkman's eye.

Trump and Brexit, you mean those hate-free, accepting and positive current world events?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Courtney just couldn't resist it, could she.

Of course Johnny is going to bump into Ann any day soon.

Ann was his example, he was talking about others like Ann who would judge and want to possibly suppress expression by someone,who wanted and felt the need to.

What on earth is people's problems here,that they would want anyone, younger or older to feel inferior or self conscious about themselves for just wanting to express,yes even publicly,how they feel and how they want to express same.


Honestly there seems to be a possible unhealthy obsession against freedom of expression which may include sexuality.
I can nearly just see possibly why there is an anti Shane J around possibly from that.

The possible judgements as to him and how he expresses him are really the thing most odd to me.
I don't think it's Shane J that has the problems and suspect issues,no way.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Trump and Brexit, you mean those hate-free, accepting and positive current world events?

If hate is all you find, then that's maybe what you're seeking?

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Maybe we should be teaching children to stand up to bullies and stereotypes instead of cowering from them?

Yes, exactly. He's teaching them that it's okay to be yourself, even if that's different to the average person. Life would be so boring if people were all the same and people like Shane enrich our lives.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

If hate is all you find, then that's maybe what you're seeking?

Yeah, Trump and Brexit bringing nothing but peace and harmony to the world, through which only I see hate.

Yeah, you're totally right there Alfred.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

The issue should be how the children are raised to believe that someone should be ridiculed for wearing makeup and a dress

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Withano

Shane isnt telling anybody how to dress, only you are doing that

Giving advice isnt telling someone..like i have said johnny can dress like he wants..so whats your personal issue mate...wanna take it to pm?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Giving advice isnt telling someone..like i have said johnny can dress like he wants..so whats your personal issue mate...wanna take it to pm?

A wanna take it outside tea?

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

A wanna take it outside tea?

I have no idea what you just said...

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Ann was his example, he was talking about others like Ann who would judge and want to possibly suppress expression by someone,who wanted and felt the need to.

What on earth is people's problems here,that they would want anyone, younger or older to feel inferior or self conscious about themselves for just wanting to express,yes even publicly,how they feel and how they want to express same.


Honestly there seems to be a possible unhealthy obsession against freedom of expression which may include sexuality.
I can nearly just see possibly why there is an anti Shane J around possibly from that.

The possible judgements as to him and how he expresses him are really the thing most odd to me.
I don't think it's Shane J that has the problems and suspect issues,no way.

Oh God

Why read so much more into posts than they actually say.

Shane's full intention was to snipe at Ann again using some poor Johnny aged 15 to do so.

If it was not aimed at Ann, I could agree but it wasn't.

It wasn't even veiled tonight, I am amazed you couldn't see it.

[Tom4784]

Voicing disappointment at a result is not being undemocratic, it's called having an opinion, it does go against democracy to debase someone's opinion in an attempt to deny them it in the first place though.

[T*]

It says be who the **** you want to be and don’t let any disgruntled old dear or any bigoted youth for that matter stop you

[Cherie]

It was all going so well, and then he had to get on his soapbox, I wonder why we haven't seen any discussions which have taken place between Ann and Shane J, did she wipe the floor with him in a reasoned manner per chance

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by T*

It says be who the **** you want to be and don’t let any disgruntled old dear or any bigoted youth for that matter stop you

Totally right.
Very well and directly put too.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It was all going so well, and then he had to get on his soapbox, I wonder why we haven't seen any discussions which have taken place between Ann and Shane J, did she wipe the floor with him in a reasoned manner per chance

Nothing like making assumptions about something that we haven't seen or even know if it happened.

[HBIC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nothing like making assumptions about something that we haven't seen or even know if it happened.

Apparently some people get so engrossed in the show that they make up storylines as they go along

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nothing like making assumptions about something that we haven't seen or even know if it happened.

Courtney referred to the discussions they had in tonights highlights right at then end when Wayne asked Courtney if they could just enjoy their last few days, I guess you aren't watching? or you have short term memory loss

[MB.]

Have a google of Jamie: Drag Queen at 16, you might find it useful

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by HBIC

Apparently some people get so engrossed in the show that they make up storylines as they go along

oh another one, watch the last 10 minutes of tonights highlights

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

It was all going so well, and then he had to get on his soapbox, I wonder why we haven't seen any discussions which have taken place between Ann and Shane J, did she wipe the floor with him in a reasoned manner per chance

Some something comment about you being there watching the editing take place something something.

As for the bolded point, this is an attitude that annoys me. 'Oh look at him, talking about issues that don't affect me ugh!'.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Some something comment about you being there watching the editing take place something something.

As for the bolded point, this is an attitude that annoys me. 'Oh look at him, talking about issues that don't affect me ugh!'.

something something Courtney said it in tonight's hightlights are any of you actually watching something something

how do you know the issues don't affect me?