[Brillopad]

http://www.feministcurrent.com/2014/...btq-community/

Came across this and have to agree with much of it. Gay Drag queens such as ShaneJ claim to believe in feminism and to deplore ‘ists’ but aren’t their words a complete contradiction to their actions. It seems to me that parodying women the way they do speaks volumes about how they really see women.

[Smithy]

Just happened to “come across” an article from 2014 eh?

I’m kind of bored of the feminism debate, it’s like hitting your head against a brick wall because it’s about equality, nothing more or less and some people will never seem to understand that

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Just happened to “come across” an article from 2014 eh?

I’m kind of bored of the feminism debate, it’s like hitting your head against a brick wall because it’s about equality, nothing more or less and some people will never seem to understand that

What do you understand about how women feel about equality if you support drag queens parodying women in the usual same-old sterotypical way that white privilidged males have got away with for centuries. Dressing up and prancing around makes it no less offensive.

[Greg!]

Feminism is about equality and fair treatment of the sexes. Including both sexes being allowed to dress however they want.

[Cherie]

Men know everything Brillo, and they know more about women then we do ourselves surely you have grasped that by now

[Smithy]

“White privileged males” cahhh

So what about drag queens of colour?

Not to mention every drag queen you ever meet will be gay, I imagine that cancels out any white provilidge

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Smithy

“White privileged males” cahhh

So what about drag queens of colour?

Not to mention every drag queen you ever meet will be gay, I imagine that cancels out any white provilidge

Exactly.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Smithy

“White privileged males” cahhh

So what about drag queens of colour?

Not to mention every drag queen you ever meet will be gay, I imagine that cancels out any white provilidge

How exactly do drag queens of colour disprove that drag queens are mocking women. Just suggests a lot of hypocricy to me if both gay men and men of colour fail to see or give a damn about how they condone the blatant sexist stereotyping of women.

[Smithy]

Because they’re not mocking women?

If you’ve ever seen a drag queen or done some actual research most drag queens do it as homage to women, because they love women.

If they were mocking women then why aren’t they performing in men’s clubs with everyone laughing at them? HAHAHA look a man in a wig, he’s like a woman HAHAHA WOMEN HAHAHA

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Men know everything Brillo, and they know more about women then we do ourselves surely you have grasped that by now

Men always think they know better than women it seems - can’t see a lot has changed judging by MANY of the posts on here.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Men know everything Brillo, and they know more about women then we do ourselves surely you have grasped that by now

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Because they’re not mocking women?

If you’ve ever seen a drag queen or done some actual research most drag queens do it as homage to women, because they love women.

If they were mocking women then why aren’t they performing in men’s clubs with everyone laughing at them? HAHAHA look a man in a wig, he’s like a woman HAHAHA WOMEN HAHAHA

I'm a woman, I'm not feeling homage from some bloke dressed as a pantomime women.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I'm a woman, I'm not feeling homage from some bloke dressed as a pantomime women.

Here, here - are men telling us how we should feel now! No surprises there.

[jaxie]

And I'll tell you this, Bianca Del Rio has not done much for drag queens or LGBT by calling Ann Widdicombe a c.u.n.t. in the clip that was posted on the CBB forum. I've always been fairly open and live and let live about people and preferences but the way people have been acting over Ann and the narrow minded hysteria over her opinions has shocked me. As a community you ask for acceptance but that road goes both ways dear.

[Livia]

As soon as feminism is mentioned, in come the males, telling us what feminism is. Feminism isn't men posting on the subject, quite dismissively. That may be news to some men.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Livia

As soon as feminism is mentioned, in come the males, telling us what feminism is. Feminism isn't men posting on the subject, quite dismissively. That may be news to some men.

Very true.

[Greg!]

How dare "the males" have an opinion on feminism which is supposed to mean equality for all genders. A disgrace!

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Livia

As soon as feminism is mentioned, in come the males, telling us what feminism is. Feminism isn't men posting on the subject, quite dismissively. That may be news to some men.

I get the feeling if a woman had won and spent all series telling the men to shut up and listen rather than speak you'd be reeling and whining that feminism isn't misandry, so I'm not entirely sure what it is exactly you want.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Greg!

How dare "the males" have an opinion on feminism which is supposed to mean equality for all genders. A disgrace!

Of course males can have an opinion, but in thinking theirs is the only one that matters, therein lies the problem

[Jamie89]

Drag isn't about parodying women, it's about parodying and exploring gender stereotypes/social constructs. And it works both ways, drag queens and drag kings.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Greg!

How dare "the males" have an opinion on feminism which is supposed to mean equality for all genders. A disgrace!

And then they get all hissy and talk about "equality", like it's something men haven't experienced! It's hilarious!

You can have an opinion. But you can't tell women what our opinion ought to be.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Greg!

How dare "the males" have an opinion on feminism which is supposed to mean equality for all genders. A disgrace!

Agreed. Need to get off the telling women what to do perch.

[lewis111]

Courntey is clearly a feminist and the fact she wears female clothes doesn't change that
Ann is more difficult to define as she believes that men and women should be equal, but also believes the already are so I doubt she would class herself as a feminist

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Men always think they know better than women it seems - can’t see a lot has changed judging by MANY of the posts on here.

When you so clearly misunderstand what feminism is are you surprised?

[lewis111]

Originally Posted by Livia

And then they get all hissy and talk about "equality", like it's something men haven't experienced! It's hilarious!

You can have an opinion. But you can't tell women what our opinion ought to be.

No one is telling you how you have to feel? Men can have opinions on what is and isn't feminism too?