[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ah right. I thought Obamacare was kind of like, a safetynet NHS kind of thing for the less well off. Given how much people seemed to love it So its basically just more huge insurance fees?

the pharmaceutical companies and the insurance companies (health care providers) have got it all sewn up. Its an outrageous scam, so Donald is quite right to address it, I just don't think he will come up with anything better, but if he does, he will have redeemed his presidency at a stroke

[Livia]

The NHS is on its knees. I'm no Trump supporter, but I didn't realise it was a secret.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It surely better than what they have in the US though..........

Yeah In America their Medical system is far worse !! and with Trump in charge who knows what will happen . I'm glad I don't live there ,so it's rich him putting his ugly 2 cents in about the NHS . I still worry about the NHS though .

[GiRTh]

When Obama commented about the EU referendum many told him to shut up and concentrate on his own affairs. I'd like to echo that sentiment with Donnie. HE should concentrate on the investigation and how he might stay out of jail. Apparently Mueller want to interview Donnie and I dont see any good coming from him meeting with the Special Prosecutor

Also there is no way Donnie even knows how the NHS works

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

When Obama commented about the EU referendum many told him to shut up and concentrate on his own affairs. I'd like to echo that sentiment with Donnie. HE should concentrate on the investigation and how he might stay out of jail. Apparently Mueller want to interview Donnie and I dont see any good coming from him meeting with the Special Prosecutor

Also there is no way Donnie even knows how the NHS works

a tweet versus a visit to the UK and a speech during a referendum are hardly comparable

[GiRTh]

Its one of his main ways of communicating so very much comparable

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Its one of his main ways of communicating so very much comparable

rubbish

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

rubbish

Really???


Donnie has outlined policy on twitter so what so amusing In fact I find that amusing that he uses it for such important information

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

These things are a problem but tbh they're not the major issue when it comes to unnecessary treatment costs. Yes, these surgeries are expensive but the number being done is relatively small...

...the MAIN problem is minor injuries and ailments. People going to their GP for antibiotics because they have a sniffle, or A&E for any minor bump / scrape / burn. Each individual treatment cost is of course far lower than those big surgeries... but there are a few people getting major surgeries. There are literally MILLIONS of people using the NHS for things that they could, and should, quite effectively treat at home on their own. I genuinely believe that a huge part of the solution is general health education, so that people can accurately assess their own health / an injury and know how to treat minor things without needing to lean on healthcare. Of course sometimes you're going to be sick enough to need medical attention, or sustain an injury that might need looking at, but people seem to be A) really bad at knowing the difference and B) really impatient (e.g. people will go to a doctor if they're ill and not totally better after 2 days, EVEN IF their symptoms are obviously improving not worsening... let your body heal! Let your immune system work!)

But yeah... those "little things" stack up to costing needless fortunes. It's not even always that people are entitled / selfish, either - people are anxious about their health, they are inclined to want "an expert opinion" and have totally lost the ability to self-assess and treat minor ailments. There should be a mandatory weekly class in schools - it's just as important as something like P.E.

I would say at least 60% of cases in A&E are non emergency, just people with no common sense

[ethanjames]

i cant stand trump but hes right,,,, the nhs is so underfunded and its a mess at this point as someone who has spent the majority of their teenage years there i can confirm this

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

When Obama commented about the EU referendum many told him to shut up and concentrate on his own affairs. I'd like to echo that sentiment with Donnie. HE should concentrate on the investigation and how he might stay out of jail. Apparently Mueller want to interview Donnie and I dont see any good coming from him meeting with the Special Prosecutor

Also there is no way Donnie even knows how the NHS works

He didn't just comment on the referendum though did he? He actually travelled to Britain to tell the British people which way to vote, and threatened us that if we didn't vote his way, then we'll be going to the back of the queue.

[GiRTh]

Ok so you also want to make the argument that Obama did more? Fair enough

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Ok so you also want to make the argument that Obama did more? Fair enough

Nice Cathy Newman impression

[GiRTh]

Cathy Griffin/Cathy Newman make your mind up. Comedian or the journalist ?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Cathy Griffin/Cathy Newman make your mind up. Comedian or the journalist ?

Too many names to remember these days. I got there in the end didn't I? and before you replied. As you saw, I spotted my mistake immedietely.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Trump may have done the NHS a huge favour. I predict a swift injection of government cash.

I actually think you have a point.

On the other side,there have been so many outrageous tweets from President Trump..
Really nothing from him surprises me anymore.