[jaxie]

https://youtu.be/Gk2OcKVu8qU

This has been on tv before but I watched it for the first time the other day and found it really shocking. It's about one particular girl who was shot and thrown in the river by her father and uncle as an honour killing and highlights honour attacks and how they often get away with it through 'forgivemess'.

I thought others might be interested in watching and discussing it so have posted the utube.

There is also a news link about the story.

I found the father at the end quite shocking with his little sanctimonious speech about how he did the right thing. Such a horrible betrayal.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...car-nomination

[jet]

I watched the full documentary last night Jaxie, and it's quite horrendous how these men get away with murder or attempted murder by the victim or their family being practically forced to forgive. That young girl was left for dead and her face scarred for life and she didn't want to forgive her father and uncle for what they did to her; her older brother was the who was given the right to decide if they would be forgiven or not, it's just disgraceful. All because the man she chose to marry was poorer than they were!

What other choice do they have. If the father and uncle were not forgiven and went to jail the community would shun the family and give them no help in the future. Then after a few years they would be released and probably make sure they killed her this time. These men go on about honour and respect, what honour is there in shooting your daughter and dumping her body in the river?
Crazy stuff - and her mother and sister were as bad, agreeing with the men that they had done the right thing.
As there is no real deterrent to murdering woman if they don't toe the line and bring so called 'dishonour' on the family, these awful crimes continue. How can that be in this day and age?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by jet

I watched the full documentary last night Jaxie, and it's quite horrendous how these men get away with murder or attempted murder by the victim or their family being practically forced to forgive. That young girl was left for dead and her face scarred for life and she didn't want to forgive her father and uncle for what they did to her; her older brother was the who was given the right to decide if they would be forgiven or not, it's just disgraceful. All because the man she chose to marry was poorer than they were!

What other choice do they have. If the father and uncle were not forgiven and went to jail the community would shun the family and give them no help in the future. Then after a few years they would be released and probably make sure they killed her this time. These men go on about honour and respect, what honour is there in shooting your daughter and dumping her body in the river?
Crazy stuff - and her mother and sister were as bad, agreeing with the men that they had done the right thing.
As there is no real deterrent to murdering woman if they don't toe the line and bring so called 'dishonour' on the family, these awful crimes continue. How can that be in this day and age?

It's a very well made documentary. I did read that the uncle took a gun to her home again a while after the release but she was unharmed in the altercation but I think he went to jail this time and now she fears his release.

You have to wonder how a society comes to a place where the life and happiness of your child has less value than their obedience to your decisions about who they can love or speak to or interact with etc.

It seems almost unbelieveable to me that they can commit murder/attempted murder and escape justice. That just promotes the behaviour.

[jet]

These laws are unbelievable. Kill your daughter, the rest of the family don't want to lose their father and probably the main money earner so they forgive you, and bobs your uncle, everything is okay dokey and good riddance to that pesky girl with her own mind.

Aggravated Murder.
Murder carries the religiously stipulated retributive penalty of harm in-kind. Article 302A addresses the typical sharia punishment for murder, where the defendant may be pardoned if the victim’s family desires. Under Article 302B of the penal code, a judge may still pass a sentence of death, taking into account aggravating and mitigating circumstances. This allows the a judge to pronounce a death sentence for aggravated murder even if the victim’s family agrees to pardon the offender. In practice, judges are unlikely to ignore a family’s agreement to forgive an offender. [1] By law, honor killings are to be treated as aggravated killings; [2] in practice, honor killings may be treated more leniently than murder. [3]

https://www.deathpenaltyworldwide.or...untry=Pakistan

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by jet

These laws are unbelievable. Kill your daughter, the rest of the family don't want to lose their father and probably the main money earner so they forgive you, and bobs your uncle, everything is okay dokey and good riddance to that pesky girl with her own mind.



https://www.deathpenaltyworldwide.or...untry=Pakistan

It makes me want to cry to think about the value placed on those girls lives. What hope do they have?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

https://youtu.be/Gk2OcKVu8qU

This has been on tv before but I watched it for the first time the other day and found it really shocking. It's about one particular girl who was shot and thrown in the river by her father and uncle as an honour killing and highlights honour attacks and how they often get away with it through 'forgivemess'.

I thought others might be interested in watching and discussing it so have posted the utube.

There is also a news link about the story.

I found the father at the end quite shocking with his little sanctimonious speech about how he did the right thing. Such a horrible betrayal.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...car-nomination

I saw this documentary last year and posted about it on here at the time. I didn’t see it this time though but can remember it clearly and found it both moving and shocking. The treatment of women in this and similar cultures says far more about the men than the women and is beyond disgusting. I could not believe a man could treat his own daughter like that. That young woman was worth more than him and all the men in the country who think like that and had more courage than each and every one of them.

I admired her courage and how she got on with her life. She didn’t allow it to shape her future and stop her being happy. She put all those ignorant poor excuses for men to shame.