[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've been disgusted by some of the posts on this thread. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I was repeatedly abused by a user when I first joined here and nothing was done. There are some posts on here that give me hope, but it's the ones explaining why the Jews have nothing to complain about.

Having just returned from ANOTHER ban some of the comments on here have convinced me that I need a break from here... maybe a very long one. Nothing changes, nothing gets done and the people who get their jollies from being rude and bigoted - and yet accuse others of being bigoted if muslims or travellers are mentioned - are protected. I'm tired of this.

Many agree with you Liv and are also very tired of it. You are right nothing changes and it is demoralising. A break is good as it clears your head and can rejuvenate you - but I hope you make it a short one as you are a valued member and many will truly miss you.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've been disgusted by some of the posts on this thread. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I was repeatedly abused by a user when I first joined here and nothing was done. There are some posts on here that give me hope, but it's the ones explaining why the Jews have nothing to complain about.

Having just returned from ANOTHER ban some of the comments on here have convinced me that I need a break from here... maybe a very long one. Nothing changes, nothing gets done and the people who get their jollies from being rude and bigoted - and yet accuse others of being bigoted if muslims or travellers are mentioned - are protected. I'm tired of this.

i honestly thought things were going to change, but it seems to have been just words to placate until the dust settled

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i honestly thought things were going to change, but it seems to have been just words to placate until the dust settled

I think many did. The whole handling of it has been patronising and unprofessional.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've been disgusted by some of the posts on this thread. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I was repeatedly abused by a user when I first joined here and nothing was done. There are some posts on here that give me hope, but it's the ones explaining why the Jews have nothing to complain about.

Having just returned from ANOTHER ban some of the comments on here have convinced me that I need a break from here... maybe a very long one. Nothing changes, nothing gets done and the people who get their jollies from being rude and bigoted - and yet accuse others of being bigoted if muslims or travellers are mentioned - are protected. I'm tired of this.

You will be missed Livia. I've never seen anything your posts that deserve any kind of ban. I see far ruder and more aggressive posts get away with it than anything I've ever seen from you.

[Cherie]

What a shame Livia, but I can't say I blame you at all

[lime]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've been disgusted by some of the posts on this thread. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I was repeatedly abused by a user when I first joined here and nothing was done. There are some posts on here that give me hope, but it's the ones explaining why the Jews have nothing to complain about.

Having just returned from ANOTHER ban some of the comments on here have convinced me that I need a break from here... maybe a very long one. Nothing changes, nothing gets done and the people who get their jollies from being rude and bigoted - and yet accuse others of being bigoted if muslims or travellers are mentioned - are protected. I'm tired of this.

Ah feck Livia...Don't go

Your stronger than this

Myself and yourself have varying opions on many subjects...but an honest opinion is a valid opinion

[Toy Soldier]

I can take a stab at what you were banned for Livia and being fair all I can really say is... If anyone finds their blood-pressure being raised by this place and real anger starting to spill over then it's time to have a rethink or take a step back. And that's not me being high-horsey, it's from very recent personal experience.

[parmnion]

Dont go liv....

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've been disgusted by some of the posts on this thread. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I was repeatedly abused by a user when I first joined here and nothing was done. There are some posts on here that give me hope, but it's the ones explaining why the Jews have nothing to complain about.

Having just returned from ANOTHER ban some of the comments on here have convinced me that I need a break from here... maybe a very long one. Nothing changes, nothing gets done and the people who get their jollies from being rude and bigoted - and yet accuse others of being bigoted if muslims or travellers are mentioned - are protected. I'm tired of this.

Livia, I do understand where you are coming from. I don't wish to see you go, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't consider doing the same thing. I think some of your feelings of frustration you've cited here are contagious. For me, it's because I agree with what TS mentioned. We have to find balance and coordinate our thoughts towards more positive (i.e. as in meaningful) things. Not just simply keep reintroducing/reinforcing the same negative thought patterns... I don't think people return here for the drama. The main problem with TiBB atm for me is that because there is such a recycling of drama, that it feels like I'm "risking" my peaceful state of mind every time I leave a post here. Will my words too be misconstrued? Will I too be spat at for those words? The feeling for me is that the trolling has gotten out of hand and that this place has felt too risky at times to share my thoughts and experiences in any sort of meaningful way.

I'm just very saddened we won't have the time to get to know each other better, the way I'd gotten to know some others. You and a handful of others are literally the only reason I return. You are at the top of that list. If you leave or others start leaving, then my "grip" and desire to return to this place is effectively loosened as the only reason I keep continuing at all is because of the people whose thoughts I enjoy reading and conversing with every day on here.

I know I don't spend as much time on here as I'd like, partially for the reasons stated above, but I can't abide you remaining if you yourself are feeling personally targeted and that making you feel so miserable in that way. Again I think that feeling is contagious, as more than a fair few here have already said something is amiss for them. Those concerns are coming from many different ends I think... I think you and others have already expressed your views and had them validated in that respect.

[Kazanne]

Livia,please don't you even think about leaving , some of us DO see the injustice of some of the stuff on here , but don't let people drive you away ,that's what they want, just ignore them ,you are a respected poster on here by many, we can't really afford to lose good posters we have lost so many already, Please reconsider.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jaxie

You will be missed Livia. I've never seen anything your posts that deserve any kind of ban. I see far ruder and more aggressive posts get away with it than anything I've ever seen from you.

Aint that the truth

[parmnion]

B4 you go remember to forward that msg you recieved.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

I've been disgusted by some of the posts on this thread. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised. I was repeatedly abused by a user when I first joined here and nothing was done. There are some posts on here that give me hope, but it's the ones explaining why the Jews have nothing to complain about.

Having just returned from ANOTHER ban some of the comments on here have convinced me that I need a break from here... maybe a very long one. Nothing changes, nothing gets done and the people who get their jollies from being rude and bigoted - and yet accuse others of being bigoted if muslims or travellers are mentioned - are protected. I'm tired of this.

Don't you dare walk away, why let the people who target you win ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Livia,please don't you even think about leaving , some of us DO see the injustice of some of the stuff on here , but don't let people drive you away ,that's what they want, just ignore them ,you are a respected poster on here by many, we can't really afford to lose good posters we have lost so many already, Please reconsider.

Seconded .... This place needs good people like Livia

[kirklancaster]

I did not know that Liv had been banned again. If anyone knows why could you please PM me?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I did not know that Liv had been banned again. If anyone knows why could you please PM me?

Pmd you Kirk.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Pmd you Kirk.

Thanks, Kaz

[Oliver_W]

Biased moderation is common on any forum tbh. Doesn't make it okay, it's just a shame it could lead to good members leaving.

[Smithy]

People breaking the rules, getting banned and throwing a tantrum storming off? Shocking

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Biased moderation is common on any forum tbh. Doesn't make it okay, it's just a shame it could lead to good members leaving.

When there is a lack of balance in ‘punishments’ and one group get infracted and banned more than the other - it leads to unbalanced ‘debates’ as one group have to be more aware of what they say than the other. It also gives certain people more ‘courage’ to be key-board warriors knowing that they will likely get away with it.

After a while some people have had enough. It’s hardly a surprise really.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Smithy

People breaking the rules, getting banned and throwing a tantrum storming off? Shocking

You never break the rules of course.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You never break the rules of course.

Nope! Practically perfect in every way, Mary poppins wishes!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Nope! Practically perfect in every way, Mary poppins wishes!

Or have a guardian angel - who is definely not perfect!

[Toy Soldier]

She lost her cool unprovoked and got a 24h ban, it's hardly an international incident, and she's not the first person it's happened to so I can't really see how it's biased in this case .

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

She lost her cool unprovoked and got a 24h ban, it's hardly an international incident, and she's not the first person it's happened to so I can't really see how it's biased in this case .

Well some people just like to prod,prod,prod,don't they ?plus 'unprovoked ' ? I don't think so !!!