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09-03-2018, 01:39 PM | #26 | |||
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09-03-2018, 01:41 PM | #27 | |||
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I think he's up to his neck in something...That said if he was that worried why pursue a case at all?
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09-03-2018, 01:41 PM | #28 | ||
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09-03-2018, 01:46 PM | #29 | |||
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There are those who still mock at the suggestions that there are high profile peadophiles operating ... Even following the Saville case and others. :/
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09-03-2018, 01:46 PM | #30 | |||
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Yep, it's crazy, if people had come on here while saville was alive with accusations of everything he did, they'd have been told to get the tin foil hats out
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09-03-2018, 01:52 PM | #31 | ||
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Exactly ,he hid behind charity like Richards and McCanns have hidden behind God ,its what keeps them safe from criticism
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09-03-2018, 01:53 PM | #32 | ||
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Though these historical cases, as I said I don't really get it given its near impossible to get people convicted for current day sexual assaults/rapes even with a lot of evidence. Where surely after like 30+ years there would be NO evidence at all. But no way would I ever believe that hundreds of people were lying. Its not as if its just a case of saying to the police 'oh, X sexually assaulted me 40 years ago' and thats all. There is intense questioning and such too..
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I did not know that 9 people accused Cliff..thought it was just one. Hmm.
Apparently the fact that one of his accusers is a rapist himself should go against the accuser or something. Rapists are clearly scum, but being a rapist does not mean that you could not be sexually abused as a child. The guy reckons its Cliffs fault for how he is today, which is also nonsensical to me tbh. If you were abused as a child, why would that make you in turn abuse others..bad excuse. Never looked very far into this Cliff Richards thing. Have skim read a couple of threads about it all. But reading a bit more into it..does seem a bit dodgy even from the start
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09-03-2018, 01:59 PM | #34 | ||
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09-03-2018, 02:05 PM | #35 | ||
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09-03-2018, 02:12 PM | #37 | ||
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09-03-2018, 02:13 PM | #38 | ||
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MFOHUm1vCE Richards /Jill Dando
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09-03-2018, 02:15 PM | #39 | ||
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No smoke without fire basically translates to guilty until proven innocent, it's **** logic.
I don't really see why anyone would cover for Cliff Richard of all people tbh, if they didn't charge him then it was probably because he didn't do what he was accused of. The whole privacy thing might be more to do with the fact that he seems pretty closeted and isn't interested in coming out which he might have to do if it means clearing his name. Innocent until proven guilty, unless there's charges and a case brought against him, it's all speculation and opinion. |
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So many seem to think insufficient evidence = guilty. And that insufficient evidence automatically means the accuser is lying too. Just been reading on another forum people going mad that some guy was accused of rape but got a not guilty verdict due to insufficient evidence, they are baying for the accusers blood as apparently this proves it was all made up and he is clearly innocent
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09-03-2018, 02:18 PM | #41 | ||
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The standard of evidence thats required in normal assault/rape trials is insane. And even DNA evidence, cctv and many injuries sometimes are not accepted. So..in a historical case it must be even harder to build a case. Its a bit silly to say that because enough evidence could not be gathered, he is probably innocent tbh. he might be innocent, but him not being charged means nothing really. Certainly does not prove innocence.
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It depends on how you choose to deal with it I suppose, you may grow up thinking that's what normal sexual relations are or it could make you bitter and twisted and think now it's your turn to be the one with the power etc. It's not right of course but I can see how being abused could send someone down that path (wrongly of course)
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Also, as there are data supporting a link, they need to try and come up with explanations. from the same link I posted above Quote:
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09-03-2018, 03:31 PM | #47 | ||
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No but i have a gut feeling too, are we all wrong ?
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09-03-2018, 03:51 PM | #48 | ||
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I sort of thought he was one of those rare people who are asexual, i.e have no interest in sex dunno why but that was the vibe I was getting from him
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09-03-2018, 04:07 PM | #49 | |||
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His lack of relationships has always seemed odd to me, most people in the public eye are photo'd with girlfriends or boyfriend's even if very private but his almost cold fish lack of romance of any sort just feels odd.
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