[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

"You don't post in the section you can't comment!!!!"

Because it's not like you "serious debaters" squabbling like kids everyday is having any sort knock on affect on the rest of the forum is it.

you have made 5 threads this year

perhaps if you put more into the forum you would get more out as you seem to be very negative about Tibb all the time I have noticed recently

obviously if there are things going on in your private life i apoligise

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well, what was your point then? Why mention it. Of course nobody who posts in it regularly are gonna want it culled.. so what was the point in even saying the obvious if it wasnt to make a point?

Simply ,Why would it bother some people who don'treally use it so much they want it axed ? as Cherie said the chat threads have been the cause of bother etc lots of times,,but some of us don't go in there as it doesn't interest us and serious debates would be ok if people could take a differing opinion and be civil in their responses,even when it gets heated most adults can sort it out, I think some people just love the drama and keep trying to wind people up.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Simply ,Why would it bother some people who don'treally use it so much they want it axed ? as Cherie said the chat threads have been the cause of bother etc lots of times,,but some of us don't go in there as it doesn't interest us and serious debates would be ok if people could take a differing opinion and be civil in their responses,even when it gets heated most adults can sort it out, I think some people just love the drama and keep trying to wind people up.

..well maybe ask people why it bothers them instead of just reiterating that it shouldnt?

Christ, for a few ‘serious debaters’ you guys dont seem to want much of a 2-sided debate.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Withano

..well maybe ask people why it bothers them instead of just reiterating that it shouldnt?

Christ, for a few ‘serious debaters’ you guys dont seem to want much of a 2-sided debate.

stop baiting or this thread will end up being closed as well

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Withano

..well maybe ask people why it bothers them instead of just reiterating that it shouldnt?

Christ, for a few ‘serious debaters’ you guys dont seem to want much of a 2-sided debate.

Some would probably be infracted for debating in the suggestions forum.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

stop baiting or this thread will end up being closed as well

I agree. Stop your baiting. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on whether a subforum should be axed, regardless of how much they use it. So lets stop saying **** like that so we can discuss it properly.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you have made 5 threads this year

perhaps if you put more into the forum you would get more out as you seem to be very negative about Tibb all the time I have noticed recently

obviously if there are things going on in your private life i apoligise

Sorry to disappoint but posting on this forum isn't my be all and end all like it seems to be for you. Probably why I can laugh it off when a mod deletes my posts instead of throwing tantrums and starting witch hunts.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Sorry to disappoint but posting on this forum isn't my be all and end all like it seems to be for you. Probably why I can laugh it off when a mod deletes my posts instead of throwing tantrums and starting witch hunts.

Yes this is what i mean (bit in bold) you tried this tac yesterday with another member. I am not sure why you are so angry about this?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Withano

I agree. Stop your baiting. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on whether a subforum should be axed, regardless of how much they use it. So lets stop saying **** like that so we can discuss it properly.

Lol

Can you imagine going into the music forum to say that the latest lady Gaga song is crap

"wait when did you hear it?"

me: "I havent but dont shut down my opinion"


er


no

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Lol

Can you imagine going into the music forum to say that the latest lady Gaga song is crap

"wait when did you hear it?"

me: "I havent but dont shut down my opinion"


er


no

You literally post this tho

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Lol

Can you imagine going into the music forum to say that the latest lady Gaga song is crap

"wait when did you hear it?"

me: "I havent but dont shut down my opinion"


er


no

Thats not quite an accurate parallel to whats happening.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Withano

Thats not quite an accurate parallel to whats happening.

i was pretty pleased with it tbh

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Smithy

You literally post this tho

shhhhh

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Smithy

You literally post this tho

[LeatherTrumpet]

trust Smithy to bust me

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

..well maybe ask people why it bothers them instead of just reiterating that it shouldnt?

Christ, for a few ‘serious debaters’ you guys dont seem to want much of a 2-sided debate.

I did ask,hence the use of the word WHY,Christ you are not getting annoyed are you,lets debate like adults.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Yes this is what i mean (bit in bold) you tried this tac yesterday with another member. I am not sure why you are so angry about this?

That was angry? Sorry I forgot you were a bit fragile when people oppose your views, don't do another one of those silent protests on us

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I did ask,hence the use of the word WHY,Christ you are not getting annoyed are you,lets debate like adults.

ok kaz, you were super polite and inquisitive.

[jet]

Can I sum it up for the SD closer - downers:

"I don't like SD and want it axed but I go into it all the time to see whats going on, especially when there is a juicy argument".

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

That was angry? Sorry I forgot you were a bit fragile when people oppose your views, don't do another one of those silent protests on us

You would not know as you dont use SD


I am sure the robust fellows of SD would welcome you into their bosom



any more recruits want to follow Jordan's lead?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Rob!

I think it does rather open the floodgates to pointless political arguments, which a lot of the time can create more personal insults than most topics, but at the same time, the topics would just end up being somewhere else and in fairness, if people can't be mature enough to listen to other people's opinions than actually listening to another side of an argument and instead act like mentally challanged children, then at least the SD section is keeping them off the streets.

How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway. IMO but I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.

and shame on you Rob for such a disgusting line as " instead act like mentally challenged children"

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.

Great post Kizzy

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I did ask,hence the use of the word WHY,Christ you are not getting annoyed are you,lets debate like adults.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.