FAQ |
Members List |
Calendar |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
Serious Debates & News Debate and discussion about political, moral, philosophical, celebrity and news topics. |
Reply |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
26-03-2018, 06:52 PM | #26 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
Although IMO TS did a good job of extending the analogy to those more extreme examples, so the video could be longer. Last edited by Marsh.; 26-03-2018 at 06:54 PM. |
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 06:56 PM | #27 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Why should they... Bullying is a generalised topic but you wouldn't tackle online or psychological bullying the same way as physical would you?
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 06:59 PM | #28 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
To highlight rape/bullying isn't just physical.
It might feed into the misconception that rape is merely literally forcing someone into sex by physically restraining or beating them. Quote:
Or it would be separated into "Physical" and "Psychological". But like I said, I think the tea analogy was actually perfect IMO for explaining the verbal coercion and guilt-tripping aspects as it would highlight how ridiculous and obvious it is trying to force someone into something they simply don't want to do. I don't know why they left it out. Last edited by Marsh.; 26-03-2018 at 07:01 PM. |
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 07:01 PM | #29 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 07:05 PM | #30 | |||
|
||||
Triumph of the Weird
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 07:07 PM | #31 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
You can get into the details with them sensitively, but to highlight it and get everyone on the same page of understanding, it's a good method. Last edited by Marsh.; 26-03-2018 at 07:08 PM. |
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 07:09 PM | #32 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 07:11 PM | #33 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
|
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 07:21 PM | #34 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Is 'rape is rape' not a quip?
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 07:48 PM | #35 | ||
|
|||
-
|
|
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 07:56 PM | #36 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
chatphobic
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 08:10 PM | #37 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
No.
I was responding that rape in all its forms is still part of the same central topic and so will/should be covered in the same lesson. As I said earlier, it helps with misconceptions that rape is all "Strangers physically attacking you at night in a dark alley" and actual understand the broader topic of consent. Simple things like this help with that. If you don't want to respond to that and just highlight three words to misconstrue as an insult that's your prerogative. Last edited by Marsh.; 26-03-2018 at 08:13 PM. |
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 08:25 PM | #38 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Quote:
As I said like bullying it is part of a central topic, I don't agree it can be as I don't see the 'rape is rape' connection. If like you say there are facets to it, rape is not rape....
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 08:54 PM | #39 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
Quote:
Rape is rape. Whether physical force or emotional blackmail, it is rape. That's the whole point of the misconceptions being dealt with all at once and together. Discuss them. Rape isn't just from strangers in strange places but can happen in relationships in your own bedroom type of thing that a lot of people (especially young ones) simply won't comprehend. You see it in a lot of reactions to news stories when you get some people asking "How can it be rape? He's her husband" or "She led him on. She took him home from the club, how can she have wanted anything other than sex?" etc etc. So, there's valid reasons. So, no, it's not/was not about you. It was directly related to my view on this discussion. Whether you take them seriously, I couldn't care less. I'm normally told not to quote you anyway so it doesn't matter to me that you take me seriously or otherwise. Last edited by Marsh.; 26-03-2018 at 08:54 PM. |
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 09:08 PM | #40 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Quote:
Are you schooling me in rape?... All the different situations in which rape could happen was my reasoning behind my position that rape is not rape.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 09:21 PM | #41 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
*makes a comment*
"Stop patronising me" *explains comment* "Are you schooling me?" Laters Kizzy. |
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 09:33 PM | #42 | |||
|
||||
Likes cars that go boom
|
Why do you keep going on about strangers..... Do you think I'm not aware of these things?
Seeing as you're back to patronising yes let's end the discussion there.
__________________
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 09:35 PM | #43 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
No, we're discussing how people are and can be educated about rape and the complexities around consent but if you're going to slice out isolated words and accuse me of "schooling" "patronising" or, god forbid, "Mansplaining" you then there's not much point.
|
||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 09:45 PM | #44 | |||
|
||||
Senior Member
|
|
|||
Reply With Quote |
26-03-2018, 10:13 PM | #45 | ||
|
|||
Senior Member
|
I am going to do one of these adverts for my poetry - I can write it but no one has to read it.
g2g - cup of tea at door. |
||
Reply With Quote |
Reply |
|
|