[Nicky91]

Putin had offered to help with the investigation


UK declines this, and just because they are ''confident'' they know Russia is to blame


sorry but a russian ex spy was poisoned with his daughter, the UK people weren't attacked themselves, if Putin says he knows nothing about this poisoning incident, i believe him


and i thought UK wanted to leave the EU, and yet they run to the EU like weak pathetic sheep, where's your ''brexit'' independence now


and now Australia kicks out russian diplomats, UGH it is true about that saying, all sheep follow each other when 1 jumps over the pond


i am so happy not being a sheep, and siding with Putin on this, i believe in the term innocent until proven guilty


i am not against UK but i am against dumb decisions

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Putin had offered to help with the investigation


UK declines this, and just because they are ''confident'' they know Russia is to blame


sorry but a russian ex spy was poisoned with his daughter, the UK people weren't attacked themselves, if Putin says he knows nothing about this poisoning incident, i believe him


and i thought UK wanted to leave the EU, and yet they run to the EU like weak pathetic sheep, where's your ''brexit'' independence now


and now Australia kicks out russian diplomats, UGH it is true about that saying, all sheep follow each other when 1 jumps over the pond


i am so happy not being a sheep, and siding with Putin on this, i believe in the term innocent until proven guilty


i am not against UK but i am against dumb decisions

Sorry Nicki but other people WERE affected ,such as the policeman,plus all the others in the area who were near are now living in uncertainty of whether they could be affected in the future,just because we have not heard definate proof does not mean there isn't any, they must be pretty sure, we know you think Putin is 'hot' but don't let that cloud your judgement.

[bots]

Nicky,

Your own Netherlands also ejected Russian diplomats, perhaps you should ask your government why they did it?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sorry Nicki but other people WERE affected ,such as the policeman,plus all the others in the area who were near are now living in uncertainty of whether they could be affected in the future,just because we have not heard definate proof does not mean there isn't any, they must be pretty sure, we know you think Putin is 'hot' but don't let that cloud your judgement.

Putin said he wants to cooperate with the investigation, UK and other countries can't just simply banish all russian diplomats


it are probably russian separatists, same who also shotdown MH17


they are not officially part of the government, so they are a disgrace for Russia i think as well


not all russians are evil but these separatists were protecting ukrainian rebels at Crimea, remember


and Putin is right if it truly was a official military strike then the ex spy would've been immediately killed, this is more the work of a terror group not military


or at least that are my thoughts

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Putin said he wants to cooperate with the investigation, UK and other countries can't just simply banish all russian diplomats


it are probably russian separatists, same who also shotdown MH17


they are not officially part of the government, so they are a disgrace for Russia i think as well


not all russians are evil but these separatists were protecting ukrainian rebels at Crimea, remember


and Putin is right if it truly was a official military strike then the ex spy would've been immediately killed, this is more the work of a terror group not military


or at least that are my thoughts

And Putin cant go round just poisoning people either Nicki,and no one has said ALL Russians are evil.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

And Putin cant go round just poisoning people either Nicki,and no one has said ALL Russians are evil.

he didn't


i said russian separatists, they have nothing to do with Putin and his government

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

he didn't


i said russian separatists, they have nothing to do with Putin and his government

You have no proof of that either

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

You have no proof of that either

i can have my own theory, especially when UK are their very own Judge, jury and executioner

[user104658]

There's certainly more to it all than meets the eye Nicky (as there always is), but I don't think it's as clear cut as you're making out, and I don't think we can quite apply the term "innocent" to Putin... whether he ordered this or not .

I personally do agree that the response has been kneejerk though, and I find myself wondering why. The reasoning is "action had to be taken!!"... but that doesn't mean that action had to be taken instantly, the whole thing should have been handled at a slower pace, until "probably"s became "almost definitely"s.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i can have my own theory, especially when UK are their very own Judge, jury and executioner

It's not just the UK though is it,even you own country has expelled Russian diplomats,why is that?

[Nicky91]

sorry but i feel sad for Russia, i know i am alone at this but i am not a sheep

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

sorry but i feel sad for Russia, i know i am alone at this but i am not a sheep

I would say the main reason to feel sad for Russia is that their politics has become a sham... but then, hasn't all politics

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's not just the UK though is it,even you own country has expelled Russian diplomats,why is that?

i am disgusted by my country as well, probably to follow UK's greatness



UK wanting Brexit, strong independence, but they come running to EU like weak pathetic sheep

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

sorry but i feel sad for Russia, i know i am alone at this but i am not a sheep

I feel sorry for the people of Salisbury tbh.https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=spartandhp

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I would say the main reason to feel sad for Russia is that their politics has become a sham... but then, hasn't all politics

Trump made America pathetic i know, but at least he has the courage to congratulate Putin on his victory at the elections


others are just immediately thinking of Russia as evil

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Trump made America pathetic i know, but at least he has the courage to congratulate Putin on his victory at the elections


others are just immediately thinking of Russia as evil

And trump expelled more Russian diplomats than any other country I have seen no one say Russia is evil

[AnnieK]

There's one thing for sure and that's Putin would be mortified to think people feel sorry for Russia. They are to be feared, not pitied in their minds.

People of the UK could be affected by this and the worrying thing is it could be years down the line that any effects of the nerve agent could present. Thats a long time for people who possibly came into contact with the substance to worry about every cough, sneeze and sniffle.

I do think a measured approach would have been wiser but what's done is done I guess. We are still members of the EU until 2019 so only right that we consulted with them.

[jet]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...attack-says-pm


More than 130 people could have been exposed to the deadly nerve agent novichok during the Russian spy attack in Salisbury, Theresa May said on Monday.

The prime minister told MPs that hundreds of British citizens had been put in danger by the “utterly barbaric” act which left Sergei Skripal, a former Russian intelligence official, and his daughter Yulia in a coma.

May said that no country other than Russia had the combination of “the capability, the intent and the motive” to carry out such an attack.

“Sergei and Yulia Skripal remain critically ill in hospital. Sadly, late last week, doctors indicated that their condition is unlikely to change in the near future, and they may never recover fully,” she said.

“This shows the utterly barbaric nature of this act, and the dangers that hundreds of innocent citizens in Salisbury could have faced.”

She added: “We assess that more than 130 people in Salisbury could have been potentially exposed to this nerve agent.”

May pledged the UK, together with its EU and Nato allies, would “face down” the Russian threat and defend its infrastructure, institutions and values. “We will act to protect our national security and to keep our people safe.”

More than 50 people have been assessed in hospital, including DS Nick Bailey, who was discharged last week saying his life would probably never be the same after being exposed.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by jet

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...attack-says-pm


More than 130 people could have been exposed to the deadly nerve agent novichok during the Russian spy attack in Salisbury, Theresa May said on Monday.

The prime minister told MPs that hundreds of British citizens had been put in danger by the “utterly barbaric” act which left Sergei Skripal, a former Russian intelligence official, and his daughter Yulia in a coma.

May said that no country other than Russia had the combination of “the capability, the intent and the motive” to carry out such an attack.

“Sergei and Yulia Skripal remain critically ill in hospital. Sadly, late last week, doctors indicated that their condition is unlikely to change in the near future, and they may never recover fully,” she said.

“This shows the utterly barbaric nature of this act, and the dangers that hundreds of innocent citizens in Salisbury could have faced.”

She added: “We assess that more than 130 people in Salisbury could have been potentially exposed to this nerve agent.”

May pledged the UK, together with its EU and Nato allies, would “face down” the Russian threat and defend its infrastructure, institutions and values. “We will act to protect our national security and to keep our people safe.”

More than 50 people have been assessed in hospital, including DS Nick Bailey, who was discharged last week saying his life would probably never be the same after being exposed.

blah blah blah, and all the while Russia destroys ISIS for us cause UK and other european countries are too damn weak

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

''Strong Independent UK since Brexit''

Its really not a laughing matter Nicky.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

blah blah blah, and all the while Russia destroys ISIS for us cause UK and other european countries are too damn weak

Your scorn is quite troubling to be fair Nicky

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Its really not a laughing matter Nicky.

sorry but Putin felt sad about Skripal and his daughter


Russia Destroys terrorist threats and this is how we thank them



i am laughing so much now

[jet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

blah blah blah, and all the while Russia destroys ISIS for us cause UK and other european countries are too damn weak

blah blah blah? Would you be saying that if that policeman was your father or brother?
Russia is helping to destroy ISIS so they can poison UK citizens if they want, is that it?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

blah blah blah? Would you be saying that if that policeman was your father or brother?
Russia is helping to destroy ISIS so they can poison UK citizens if they want, is that it?

Beat me to it Jet.

[AnnieK]

I'm out of this thread now. Sorry Nicky, but you have really gone down in my estimations now. You are more than entitled to your views and.opinions but laughing and pouring scorn on what has happened is not big or clever in my eyes I'm afraid