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29-05-2018, 06:31 PM | #51 | |||
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Wow, how did she really think that would go. I don't know what her views are really, but a lot of her jokes are often low blows and very crass. Reminds me of Joan Rivers.
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29-05-2018, 06:36 PM | #52 | |||
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She was doing well loads got jobs. getting angry on Twitter was her Feck Up/ ABC/Disney had no choice with CNN LIVE shouting at them etc. Last edited by arista; 29-05-2018 at 06:49 PM. |
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29-05-2018, 06:53 PM | #53 | |||
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29-05-2018, 06:59 PM | #54 | |||
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She said some black bloke looked like a gorilla...
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29-05-2018, 07:15 PM | #55 | |||
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29-05-2018, 07:16 PM | #56 | |||
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like the boys
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Alternatively, she wasn't drunk, she's just racist, so stop trying to make excuses for her
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29-05-2018, 07:20 PM | #57 | |||
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Sure. She may not have been Drunk. Her Agency has just Dropped her (ref:FoxNews online live) Last edited by arista; 29-05-2018 at 07:25 PM. |
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29-05-2018, 07:50 PM | #58 | |||
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Roseane has bipolar and other mental issues iirc, but she still did this to herself. Her mistake was being on Twitter in the first place I think. She just got her cast and crew essentially fired/underemployed...
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29-05-2018, 07:57 PM | #59 | |||
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29-05-2018, 08:24 PM | #60 | |||
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Roseanne is a monster.
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29-05-2018, 09:19 PM | #61 | ||
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See... this is what happens when people start peddling the idea that "free speech" means that you can say literally whatever you want without consequences.
Protection of free speech in legal terms doesn't mean that, if you work for a private company you can't be fired (which Rosanne essentially did, as her employment was reliant on her show being aired by a television channel owned by a private entity) |
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29-05-2018, 09:21 PM | #62 | |||
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I don't feel bad for her but I do for the innocent cast and crew who are now out of a job because of one ignorant woman.
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29-05-2018, 10:21 PM | #63 | |||
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29-05-2018, 11:58 PM | #64 | ||
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As a side note... the thread title for this is now hilarious
"'Roseanne' Ratings Blowout Stuns Hollywood [Update: It's been cancelled]" |
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30-05-2018, 02:28 AM | #65 | |||
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ABC's loss. Some other network will gain by taking her on.
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30-05-2018, 02:31 AM | #66 | ||
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Banned
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30-05-2018, 02:47 AM | #67 | |||
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She's done. Strange choice for a reboot in the first place. They knew what her opinions were when they decided on the reboot.
This is interesting though?
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30-05-2018, 03:32 AM | #68 | |||
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30-05-2018, 03:39 AM | #69 | |||
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Her retweets are a mess at the moment
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30-05-2018, 04:26 AM | #70 | |||
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Maybe Alf, after some time has passed. A bad joke is maybe not the worst thing she could've done, whatever we think of the joke... so she could recover I think if she rehabs her image substantially, and especially if the climate around that calms down. Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite and he's still employed... Kathy Griffin... she literally took a picture of a Trump beheading, then apologized, then un-apologized, then re-apologized?... and then back to pleading innocence... I don't remember anymore, she's whackadoo... and now she is completely indignant about her "joke" gone bad, and that it was more about Trump&co trying to intimidate her than here trying to orchestrate an ill-advised attention seeking social media campaign...
I actually think this decision will adversely affect ABC... the constant boycotts, the cancellations, the constant crisises... it's all adds up after a while and creates fatigue for the viewer. Then they may wonder what is the point of broadcast media if they don't fully back their own programming... much less the "flaws" of the people they employ. Aren't we all flawed? Don't we all have skeletons in our closets? No sympathy for her really because it was her call, her joke to mess up... but I think that something doesn't add up here when companies are not willing to back their controversial hires... sort of how the media blame Middle America for Trump's rise... well, nobody told you to saturate TV coverage with his face... they helped create that monster too, but nooo it's neo-Nazis, rural Americans, Russia etc... If all it takes is a tweet now for things to be pulled, no room for resolution? No room for forgiveness? I don't think this was a small flub, even for her... but people have been fried for less. Then what does this say about how the media looks at itself?... not a very optimistic view. Sometimes they don't drop, but they are not genuine about it... hold people accountable, hold them to the fire... Bill Maher got held to the fire on his own show, for racist jokes he made... and he's still employed by HBO. I think it's become less about entertainment and more about following with the "status quo", i.e. pop culture, while trying to also get away with pulling sh** moves, attention seeking decisions, in order to preserve ratings... They knew who they hired when they rebooted the show, so I think this move is very disingenuous... but that's the pattern, make a non-dumb, obviously aware and self-evident decision because they knew exactly what they were doing (tapping into a market that is ripe for tapping), claim an oops later on and then clean up the bloodstains with political Pinesol... oh and then pretend the roles have been reversed here... "Our company really had no idea... really, I swearz... how could they..." etc... a bit fastuous. |
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30-05-2018, 04:34 AM | #71 | |||
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Retweets are constantly a mess. I left Twitter several months ago. It's like a grime-y bus stop for Trolls and other folk who live off the fumes of incoherent tweet-factories & ranting talking heads who pander to the intellectually unrequited. (Finally, someone who agrees with me!...)
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30-05-2018, 05:34 AM | #72 | |||
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I'm laughing because I just spent the last hour and a half having all these same arguments with my boyfriend and son... and then came on here to see it repeated. I'm out of words for this one... but there are a lot of valid points on both sides being put forth in this thread... I liked TS's free speech post the best though.
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30-05-2018, 06:17 AM | #73 | |||
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Yes but he has had these threats for a long time. His show gets a lots of viewers even us on SkyAtlanticHD late night Sundays. (his HBO Friday show) He is back in a week. |
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30-05-2018, 06:42 AM | #74 | |||
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Jessica Meuse was robbed.
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The BIB is what bothers me the most, I honestly don't care what opinion she wants to spout as I don't watch the show anyway, but I do feel sorry for alot of the actors who probably needed Roseanne to make money, and she essentially lost them their jobs.
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30-05-2018, 06:50 AM | #75 | |||
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probably the drink and sleeping pills combined with twitter. I doubt she was being racist but just wanted to be mean. Give it a year to die down and then away we go again
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