[arista]

Youtube video

This is a 19 year old


The BBC had another one in the UK
on their sloppy bbc breakfast show before 9AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...ear-hijab.html
the UK one is aged 20



I guess they can be sexy

[jaxie]

This is an odd one because it's not the cloth on head but the teaching behind it that a woman is not modest unless she covers her hair, that her hair is somehow wanton. In which case isn't a beauty pageant wanton and immodest since it's about women's beauty and parading around to be admired? So isn't that some sort of contradiction to the point of wearing the covering at all? I wonder how they do the swimsuit section.

[arista]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is an odd one because it's not the cloth on head but the teaching behind it that a woman is not modest unless she covers her hair, that her hair is somehow wanton. In which case isn't a beauty pageant wanton and immodest since it's about women's beauty and parading around to be admired? So isn't that some sort of contradiction to the point of wearing the covering at all? I wonder how they do the swimsuit section.

Yes for some
but the UK Lady aged 20 said
its a Charity backing her
and its all about how clever they are, as well

[Nicky91]

good for these beautiful women

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

good for these beautiful women

Thats the Spirit
Nicky

[LeatherTrumpet]

just awful

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

just awful

But will they Win it?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is an odd one because it's not the cloth on head but the teaching behind it that a woman is not modest unless she covers her hair, that her hair is somehow wanton. In which case isn't a beauty pageant wanton and immodest since it's about women's beauty and parading around to be admired? So isn't that some sort of contradiction to the point of wearing the covering at all? I wonder how they do the swimsuit section.

When it suits - as always. Sick to death of it and it is about time something was done about it in the West.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by arista

But will they Win it?

If they do it’s a political plan to make a point.

[ethanjames]

don't see what the issue is they look beautiful

[arista]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

If they do it’s a political plan to make a point.

Yes it could be
but as a charity event
it would not be Up Top etc.

[arista]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

don't see what the issue is they look beautiful

Yes Beautiful and Clever
then they can win.

[y.winter]

It's like that hair product ad that had a woman with a hijab covering her entire head

[arista]

Originally Posted by y.winter

It's like that hair product ad that had a woman with a hijab covering her entire head

Thats the idea

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by ethanjames

don't see what the issue is they look beautiful

No one was making an issue were they?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is an odd one because it's not the cloth on head but the teaching behind it that a woman is not modest unless she covers her hair, that her hair is somehow wanton. In which case isn't a beauty pageant wanton and immodest since it's about women's beauty and parading around to be admired? So isn't that some sort of contradiction to the point of wearing the covering at all? I wonder how they do the swimsuit section.

The issue is apparent if you watch the vid.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is an odd one because it's not the cloth on head but the teaching behind it that a woman is not modest unless she covers her hair, that her hair is somehow wanton. In which case isn't a beauty pageant wanton and immodest since it's about women's beauty and parading around to be admired? So isn't that some sort of contradiction to the point of wearing the covering at all? I wonder how they do the swimsuit section.

Thats your interpretation, and your personal opinions on what you think is allowed based on your interpretation. The swimsuit round was covered in that video lol. Did you watch it?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by arista

But will they Win it?

Originally Posted by Brillopad

If they do it’s a political plan to make a point.

This was also covered in that short video?! Did you watch it?!

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Thats your interpretation, and your personal opinions on what you think is allowed based on your interpretation. The swimsuit round was covered in that video lol. Did you watch it?

Er no it's not.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Er no it's not.

Lets be real here, Jaxie. You assumed it was a contradiction of her beliefs based on your incredibly narrow and short interpretation of what the hijab must mean to every single woman, including this one. You haven’t watched the video, what kind of discussion were you actually hoping for?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

This was also covered in that short video?! Did you watch it?!

Most of her was covered so how can she compete on an equal level - it is effectively cheating. She might have awful hair and a less attractive figure than the others - but how could anyone tell. On a physical level she is being judged on her face alone - whilst the others are being judged on other physical attributes too.

Never approved of the things anyway - but if they are competing and being judged they should do so on an equal playing-field.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Most of her was covered so how can she compete on an equal level - it is effectively cheating. She might have awful hair and a less attractive figure than the others - but how could anyone tell. On a physical level she is being judged on her face alone - whilst the others are being judged on other physical attributes too.

Never approved of the things anyway - but if they are competing and being judged they should do so on an equal playing-field.

Why did you quote me/that post in that rant?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Why did you quote me/that post in that rant?

What rant? Just pointed out that you can’t just dip your toe in the water or part sit an exam - it’s all or nothing otherwise it isn’t fair on the other contestants. More concessions for religion

It’s called having your cake and eating it.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

What rant? Just pointed out that you can’t just dip your toe in the water or part sit an exam - it’s all or nothing otherwise it isn’t fair on the other contestants. More concessions for religion

It’s called having your cake and eating it.

I dont understand why you’ve chosen me to engage in this conversation with you.

Nither of us know how this competition is judged anyway, I can’t imagine either of us having much to add past our personal opinions and preconceptions of what makes a beauty pageant winner.

[Tom4784]

I don't have a problem with it, it's not like you can't see her face and the hijab would more likely go against her than serve as an advantage, which is quite a silly argument. As long as it's her choice, I don't see the issue with her wearing a scarf or choosing to remain covered in the swimwear section because that's her choice and it's one that probably didn't benefit her position in the competition in the long run.