[LeatherTrumpet]

so staff thought they looked dodgy and called the cops?

bearing in mind where the store is perhaps the staff had a right to be wary?

impossible to really say when you have only one side of the story

still lets get the banners out and march..

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

so staff thought they looked dodgy and called the cops?

bearing in mind where the store is perhaps the staff had a right to be wary?

impossible to really say when you have only one side of the story

still lets get the banners out and march..

Yes i think this is the main problem LT............

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Nothing to do with skin colour,more a case of bad attitude got them arrested ,they went in Starbucks to use the toilet, something that is against shop rules, they were refused and refused to leave ...............

http://www.phillyvoice.com/starbucks...investigating/

Shouldn't the Toilet be open to everybody though?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Shouldn't the Toilet be open to everybody though?

of course not, its for folk in the shop who buy sh1t

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Shouldn't the Toilet be open to everybody though?

It should be up to the business whether or not "everybody" can use the toilet. Especially in examples like TS' workplace where they find needles.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

of course not, its for folk in the shop who buy sh1t

Every shop that I've ever been allows the Toilet to be accessible to anybody.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes i think this is the main problem LT............

i dont see what is the problem calling the cops on a couple of dodgy men, i guess the problem is why were they subsequently arrested unless they cheeked the cops or refused to leave when asked?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Every shop that I've ever been allows the Toilet to be accessible to anybody.

er no i dont think so

that is what council provided public lavatories are for

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It should be up to the business whether or not "everybody" can use the toilet. Especially in examples like TS' workplace where they find needles.

But what if you really need to go?

I get the argument as to why not everybody is allowed to use the Toilet, but overall I feel that the majority are being punished for the minority that do use the Toilets for plonking needles in them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i dont see what is the problem calling the cops on a couple of dodgy men, i guess the problem is why were they subsequently arrested unless they cheeked the cops or refused to leave when asked?

Yes you don't see the problem, I know

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

er no i dont think so

that is what council provided public lavatories are for

Well I've never been in a Starbuck's, but in every shop that I've ever been in has allowed me to use the Toilets, I should know as I've been in them and it was okay'd by staff.

[Nicky91]

oh god, but anyway even negative attention still is attention for Starbucks

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes you don't see the problem, I know

Oh wait they are black so they cant be up to no good?

I doubt the staff saw colour, well done them keeping customers safe


I hope they get a bonus for vigilance

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Oh wait they are black so they cant be up to no good?

I doubt the staff saw colour, well done them keeping customers safe


I hope they get a bonus for vigilance

I'm sure you do

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well I've never been in a Starbuck's, but in every shop that I've ever been in has allowed me to use the Toilets, I should know as I've been in them and it was okay'd by staff.

To be fair though... when I say that our toilets are "customers only" that's really just the official line. If you, or anyone else here, walked in I almost certainly would let you use the toilet no problem. "Customers Only" really means "Staff's Discretion", I suppose.

Then again, I obviously wouldn't racially profile anyone. If I'm not letting you in, it's because you're drunk or on something else.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well I've never been in a Starbuck's, but in every shop that I've ever been in has allowed me to use the Toilets, I should know as I've been in them and it was okay'd by staff.

Many shops, pubs etc have signs up saying for paying customers only. I would say it's probably a 50/50 split.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair though... when I say that our toilets are "customers only" that's really just the official line. If you, or anyone else here, walked in I almost certainly would let you use the toilet no problem. "Customers Only" really means "Staff's Discretion", I suppose.

Then again, I obviously wouldn't racially profile anyone. If I'm not letting you in, it's because you're drunk or on something else.

Oh I get not wanting to invite trouble into your shop, like personally I wouldn't want Drunks or Druggies going into a Shop that I worked at if they're just gonna cause trouble.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Many shops, pubs etc have signs up saying for paying customers only. I would say it's probably a 50/50 split.

Maybe I've just not noticed before in Shops because I normally go into Shops to buy stuff?

[LeatherTrumpet]

its junkies that are the main problem and coke users

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its junkies that are the main problem and coke users

But I love my junk.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its junkies that are the main problem and coke users

I dunno. The heroin users sometimes fall asleep in there or leave drug paraphernalia and yes, that's bad but... ... ... ... it's the drunks that ****ing piss and sh*t up the walls / in the sink / just everywhere. Which IMO is worse.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i dont see what is the problem calling the cops on a couple of dodgy men, i guess the problem is why were they subsequently arrested unless they cheeked the cops or refused to leave when asked?

so it's ok to call the police if you think someone is 'dodgy'

they're weren't disturbing anyone, the people around them even said so

[montblanc]

i'm confused at a few of the people in this thread saying that they were 'dodgy' or had 'bad attitudes'

the people around them were very confused as to why they were being arrested so surely if they were any of those things, the bystanders wouldn't be so adamant in displaying how unfortunate their arrest was

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by montblanc

so it's ok to call the police if you think someone is 'dodgy'

they're weren't disturbing anyone, the people around them even said so

Yes, staff were worried for customers safety - could be pickpockets or the like or terrorists regardless of race.

Always be vigilant that is what we are told

[Amy Jade]

I use the toilets in the starbucks in town all the time without buying anything. I never knew you couldn't.