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Old 21-04-2018, 03:25 PM #1
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Default North Korean leader Kim Jong Un promises no more nuclear or missile tests

https://news.sky.com/story/north-kor...-site-11340053


In 6 days he meets the
South Korean Leader.
Then once a location is agreed
its the USA President to meet him.

Japan does not trust Kim.
USA , China and Russia says its good news


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How do we know he's telling the truth?
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i hope you are speaking the truth now Kimmy
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How do we know he's telling the truth?

His Nation is bankrupt
His Oil is costing so much , now.

Of course
only time will tell.

Be strange if there is a Kim and USA Trump
new deal
many are saying it could fail, though.
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don't trust the fatface rocket man
probably pretending to be a dove of peace to see what he gets in return
if he doesn't get enough he will be back to rockets
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January: Trumps "nuclear button" tweet will cause Armageddon


April: Pompeo meets Kim Jong-Un, denuclearization promised, South Korea & North Korea look ready to sign peace deal.


Someone deserves the Nobel peace prize, what did Obama get his for again?
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January: Trumps "nuclear button" tweet will cause Armageddon


April: Pompeo meets Kim Jong-Un, denuclearization promised, South Korea & North Korea look ready to sign peace deal.


Someone deserves the Nobel peace prize, what did Obama get his for again?
some good developments i think


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He's set so many weapons off (like fireworks) i think he is now skint and can't afford to produce any more.
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He's set so many weapons off (like fireworks) i think he is now skint and can't afford to produce any more.
There is always the possibility that they've used up all of their viable fissile material in nuclear testing and can't source more .
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Well it’ll be Trump for the Nobel Peace prize if this works out.Obama got it for doing naff all and then killed more people with drones than anyone else.
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I think even if his nuke program were top-notch (which it probably isn't), their actual military and defense is probably crap.. they wouldn't be able to withstand an assault from foreign forces, so the nuclear program is really their only card... and so I doubt he'd just get rid of it so simply, but it is expensive to maintain and so maybe they are open to hearing other options in the very least... and for us, it is worth it to continue putting pressure on them, if it means straining their ability to do much more than that, if their resources are very limited as-is.
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Well it’ll be Trump for the Nobel Peace prize if this works out.Obama got it for doing naff all and then killed more people with drones than anyone else.
That's true N.M

Yes possible Nobel Peace prize
that could upset half of USA.
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Nobel Prize for Trump? Hold your horses, let's wait what'll come out of this.
Nukes are the only thing that keeps Kim safe, you think he will give it all up because Trump says so? Riiight.
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Nobel Prize for Trump? Hold your horses, let's wait what'll come out of this.
Nukes are the only thing that keeps Kim safe, you think he will give it all up because Trump says so? Right.


Yes he may not give up his stock
but , just Stop doing any more testing
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I am sure I just over heard these 2 in the gatehouse and they were smiling away and it ended on a hand shake.


peace is here. but never kid a kidder ?
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Yes he may not give up his stock
but , just Stop doing any more testing
But trump wants him to give them up
For US it is about his capability to hit America
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But trump wants him to give them up
For US it is about his capability to hit America
If NK leadership truly believes the US wants to get rid of the regime, then it would make no sense for them to give up their nukes... and I guess they have to worry about SK, China as well. Though it looks like they are paving the way for peace with SK... but one of their main issues has been our military presence in SK, granted we are in Japan as well... but barely there, as the public don't really like us being there and constantly protest, because those bases brings more crime.... which is not what they're used to...
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Nobel Prize for Trump? Hold your horses, let's wait what'll come out of this.
Nukes are the only thing that keeps Kim safe, you think he will give it all up because Trump says so? Riiight.
It all seems very fishy, North Korea has never even acknowledged South Korea in decades, and all of a sudden they're meeting up? And to put the icing on the cake, Kim suddenly decides to do a complete 180 on his nuclear missiles? Seems a little too perfect, Trump should watch his back going into this meeting, Kim is not to be trusted.
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It all seems very fishy, North Korea has never even acknowledged South Korea in decades, and all of a sudden they're meeting up? And to put the icing on the cake, Kim suddenly decides to do a complete 180 on his nuclear missiles? Seems a little too perfect, Trump should watch his back going into this meeting, Kim is not to be trusted.
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It all seems very fishy, North Korea has never even acknowledged South Korea in decades, and all of a sudden they're meeting up? And to put the icing on the cake, Kim suddenly decides to do a complete 180 on his nuclear missiles? Seems a little too perfect, Trump should watch his back going into this meeting, Kim is not to be trusted.
That's because we had 8 years of a leader of the free world that showed weakness by being an apologist. We now have a strong leader who they know they can't mess with.

All about leadership and sending out the right message.
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That's because we had 8 years of a leader of the free world that showed weakness by being an apologist. We now have a strong leader who they know they can't mess with.

All about leadership and sending out the right message.
You couldn't be more wrong. You don't give summits to countries classed as enemies without getting something first. ANy meeting the US holds with NK, only boosts KJU's standing.

They've given up absolutely nothing for this; the testing site they are talking about was in the process of falling apart and as such wasn't going to be used again, and they already have nuclear weapons, so they don't need to continue the program.

They haven't promised denuclearisation, they've just put their program on hold because it's already produced the results it needed.

You don't reward bad behaviour; all they've done now is sent a signal to the world that if you go nuclear then you get the states to the table.

It's the opposite of strength, it shows desperation and weakness.
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You couldn't be more wrong. You don't give summits to countries classed as enemies without getting something first. ANy meeting the US holds with NK, only boosts KJU's standing.

They've given up absolutely nothing for this; the testing site they are talking about was in the process of falling apart and as such wasn't going to be used again, and they already have nuclear weapons, so they don't need to continue the program.

They haven't promised denuclearisation, they've just put their program on hold because it's already produced the results it needed.

You don't reward bad behaviour; all they've done now is sent a signal to the world that if you go nuclear then you get the states to the table.

It's the opposite of strength, it shows desperation and weakness.
I'm totally correct.
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I'm totally correct.
Ahhh sorry, my mistake; I thought that providing you with reasons that you were wrong was the correct way to go about things. I should have just said "you're totally not correct" and be done with it.

Just out of interest, who was Obama an apologist for exactly?
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