[Alf]

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[GiRTh]

Donnie has ordered an investigation in to his political opponents and into the investigation that is investigating him. This is the type of thing we see from dictators in Banana Republics so Donnie has, without doubt, already threatened the constitutional and democratic process in the US, thank God there are checks and balances in place to prevent him from becoming the type of autocrat he clearly covets.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Donnie has ordered an investigation in to his political opponents and into the investigation that is investigating him. This is the type of thing we see from dictators in Banana Republics so Donnie has, without doubt, already threatened the constitutional and democratic process in the US, thank God there are checks and balances in place to prevent him from becoming the type of autocrat he clearly covets.

Well that’s it exactly. With all the talk of Nazis and dictators there are systems in place to prevent a repeat of such things in the West today. I would think that those that oppose Trump as President would be happy at his behaviour as it is just likely to bring him to the end sooner rather than later if it continues. If he was doing something seriously wrong I don’t believe it would go unchecked. His days are likely to be numbered but just as long as that doesn’t leave America with Clinton as it would be no better off in my opinion.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

What are you referring to?

Just use google to prove my point for me/dezzy

Nah I'll give you three: he was beaten on the muslim ban, the repeal of Obamacare, and the Wall is spinning its wheels.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It is very early days, Rome wasn't built in one, and Trump wont destroy democracy in one either.

What are the signs that Trump will "destroy democracy" ?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Well that’s it exactly. With all the talk of Nazis and dictators there are systems in place to prevent a repeat of such things in the West today. I would think that those that oppose Trump as President would be happy at his behaviour as it is just likely to bring him to the end sooner rather than later if it continues. If he was doing something seriously wrong I don’t believe it would go unchecked. His days are likely to be numbered but just as long as that doesn’t leave America with Clinton as it would be no better off in my opinion.

The thing is, he had a lost of support for both investigations he wanted to start. There were many people who wanted to give him the power to simply investigate someone he didnt like without a lick of evidence. Whats happening in the US is rather scary and what is most scary is the lack of resistance from the GOP establishment. Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell these guys wouldn't shut the hell up when Obama was in power, yet now deafeningly silent.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Just use google to prove my point for me/dezzy

Nah I'll give you three: he was beaten on the muslim ban, the repeal of Obamacare, and the Wall is spinning its wheels.


What are the signs that Trump will "destroy democracy" ?

Yeah already answered you. But Donnie is definitely trying to get around those annoying check and balances. Thank god the US is indeed a democracy but he's trying to change that.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Yeah already answered you. But Donnie is definitely trying to get around those annoying check and balances. Thank god the US is indeed a democracy but he's trying to change that.

and it was that pesky democracy that got him elected..

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That of course works both ways.

A vague response that doesn't really offer anything to the conversation and, in the context of the post you replied to, it doesn't make much sense and makes it sound like you're defending rioters? It's unclear.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and it was that pesky democracy that got him elected..

Yup, he has shown that anyone can come into power if you get enough idiots to believe the fairy tales you spin.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yup, he has shown that anyone can come into power if you get enough idiots to believe the fairy tales you spin.

You are correct in most of what you say there. But you know deep down that Trump isn't the only person ever to show us this, don't you?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

You are correct in most of what you say there. But you know deep down that Trump isn't the only person ever to show us this, don't you?

Yup, it's just annoying how people never learn from the past.

[montblanc]

you guys can keep him thanks

[arista]

Originally Posted by montblanc

you guys can keep him thanks

No he is on a big busy Euro tour
as well,
telling Nato to Fund Itself.

We are just one day

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by arista

No he is on a big busy Euro tour
as well,
telling Nato to Fund Itself.

We are just one day

UGH

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by montblanc

you guys can keep him thanks

No dumping your trash on our soil!

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It is very early days, Rome wasn't built in one, and Trump wont destroy democracy in one either.

It was democracy that elected Trump. You can't cherry pick to ignore it if it doesn't suit you.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No dumping your trash on our soil!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was democracy that elected Trump. You can't cherry pick to ignore it if it doesn't suit you.

And you can't choose to ignore how democracy can be corrupted either nor can you ignore Russia's interference in the election itself but here you are doing exactly that.

[arista]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was democracy that elected Trump. You can't cherry pick to ignore it if it doesn't suit you.

Bang On Right jaxie

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And you can't choose to ignore how democracy can be corrupted either nor can you ignore Russia's interference in the election itself but here you are doing exactly that.

Hang on
Dezzy

That has Feck all to do with President Trump
No Collusion



Its Like Neo Nazi Voters
Trump can not stop them.

Also Trump never says Sorry
he moves on.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

A vague response that doesn't really offer anything to the conversation and, in the context of the post you replied to, it doesn't make much sense and makes it sound like you're defending rioters? It's unclear.

I certainly am not defending rioters - simply pointing out that the thugs on the left don’t need much excuse for violence. Thugs are thugs whatever their politics but I don’t see you making the same noises about left-wing thugs.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and it was that pesky democracy that got him elected..

And he's already taken unprecedented steps to get around the democratic process, so lets talk about how much he respects the democracy and people that got him elected.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was democracy that elected Trump. You can't cherry pick to ignore it if it doesn't suit you.

The US was officially downgraded from a "full democracy" to a "flawed democracy" so... It was a flawed democracy that elected trump. So yes, you can choose to believe that that result was undemocratic and still believe in working democracies.

[bitontheslide]

just because there is a democratic vote doesnt mean that a country gets a good leader. One has to look at the range of available choices along the way and what flawed people ended up being the final 2 available. Clinton was highly disliked by an awful lot of people before politics even entered the equation.

There is evidence of Russian collusion too, it will all come home to roost at some point.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I certainly am not defending rioters - simply pointing out that the thugs on the left don’t need much excuse for violence. Thugs are thugs whatever their politics but I don’t see you making the same noises about left-wing thugs.

Or you're confusing opportunistic rioters for protesters in order to push your crusade against the left, that's more likely.