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Old 02-05-2018, 03:11 AM #1
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The White House said Tuesday that President Donald Trump's former bodyguard did nothing out of the ordinary when he took possession of the president's medical records last year, despite a claim by Trump's former doctor that the episode felt like a "raid."

Harold Bornstein, Trump's longtime personal doctor, told NBC News that Keith Schiller, the president's longtime bodyguard and former director of Oval Office operations, showed up at his office in February 2017 along with two other men to collect the records, leaving Bornstein feeling "raped, frightened and sad."

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders disputed the doctor's characterization of the episode.

"As is standard operating procedure for a new president, the White House Medical Unit took possession of the president's medical records," she told reporters at a White House briefing.

As for Bornstein's description that it had had the feel of a raid, she said, "No, that is not my understanding."

Bornstein told NBC that Schiller and another "large man" were in his office about 30 minutes and "created a lot of chaos." The doctor said the two men were joined by Alan Garten, the chief legal officer for the Trump Organization. A spokeswoman for the Trump Organization did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday.

The incident at Bornstein's office came two days after the doctor told The New York Times that Trump takes Propecia, a drug for enlarged prostates that is often prescribed to stimulate hair growth in men. Bornstein told the Times that he prescribed Trump drugs for rosacea and cholesterol as well.

Bornstein told NBC that Trump's longtime personal secretary called him after the story ran and said: "So you wanted to be the White House doctor? Forget it, you're out.'"

Bornstein said he wasn't given a form authorizing him to release Trump's records, but said Schiller and Garten took the originals and copies of Trump's charts and lab reports, including records filed under pseudonyms the office used.

Questions were raised about the legality of the seizure. Patients have a right to a copy of their medical records but the original physical record belongs to the doctor, said Dr. Matthew Wynia, director of the Center for Bioethics and Humanities at the University of Colorado.

"If a patient wants a copy, they can have a copy, but they don't get the original. Patients can also ask for their records to be transferred to a new doctor, but that also involves making copies (i.e., transferring the information), not literally packaging up the originals and sending them off," Wynia said in an email.

Most states require doctors to keep and maintain records, Wynia said. Federal patient privacy law bars doctors from relinquishing records without a signed release from the patient.

"Law enforcement can get copies of medical records, under some specific circumstances, but it doesn't seem like the people gathering these records were acting as law enforcement officers," Wynia said.

Bornstein did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday. Schiller departed the White House last fall and also could not be reached.

With his long flowing hair and large glasses, Bornstein became a colorful character in Trump's unlikely 2016 campaign for the presidency. In a letter released in December 2015, Bornstein wrote that Trump would "unequivocally" be the healthiest president in history and deemed the celebrity businessman's condition "astonishingly excellent."

He later said he wrote the note in five minutes while a limo sent by the candidate waited outside his office.

Bornstein's return to the headlines comes just days after Trump's White House physician, Dr. Ronny Jackson, withdrew his nomination to the head of the Department of Veterans Affairs after allegations of workplace misconduct. Jackson has denied the claims.
It seems the doctor himself is also a walking advertisement for hair regrowth options...

But this isn't a national security issue (which may be the directive they were following). He shouldn't have been divulging the information, surely... but the White House shouldn't be able to illegally grab property from his former doctor's office without a warrant... which they didn't have it seems.

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At the very least, they should just have taken the records. Can't believe they raped him .
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Strikes me as someone who is just pissed off that he has lost the gig, he was probably hoping to dine out on it for a few years
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He should be struck off, whatever happened to patient confidentiality.
Maybe it doesn’t exist in the States.
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I don't think anyone gives a crap if Trump takes/has taken hair growth medication, apart from in a "slightly snigger about it" kind of way. What would be achieved by sharing that information? Even if patient confidentiality doesn't exist in the States, it's still an abuse of trust, and if I had a doctor who unduly shared pointless information about other patients, I wouldn't be happy.
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Oh how I wish the Donald had once pushed past me in his hurry through Heathrow or suchlike, oh I how would jump on that 'Trump Shagged Me', Trump Pinched My Bum, I Know Trump Still Sleeps With His Teddy' Gravy Train.

Let me think.... Ah, yeah, a lawsuit for 'Grievous Bodily Harm' will do nicely. Oh, and maybe the Tabloids will cough up a few grand if I mention that Trump smelled of B.O as he beat me.

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At the very least, they should just have taken the records. Can't believe they raped him .
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Strikes me as someone who is just pissed off that he has lost the gig, he was probably hoping to dine out on it for a few years
I think you're right. He never reported it to the police, which struck me as odd if he felt it was such an invasive move.... but then revealing information about patients is a HIPAA violation... so even if he did report, he would then be complicating things for himself... He kept that to himself, but when his official doctor was being ousted, suddenly he found the desire to bring up the raid...

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Dr Bornstein’s media interviews come after the man who pipped him to the role of Trump White House doctor, Ronny Jackson, failed in a bid to become Veterans Affairs secretary. Dr Bornstein said reports that Dr Jackson will now not return to his post as White House doctor were a cause for “celebration for me”.
Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-apo...050311510.html

Amusing nugget from the "leak" article...

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Dr. Bornstein said he also took finasteride (Propecia) and credited it for helping maintain his own shoulder-length hair and Mr. Trump’s hair. “He has all his hair,” Dr. Bornstein said. “I have all my hair.”
Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/u...bornstein.html

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He should be struck off, whatever happened to patient confidentiality.
Maybe it doesn’t exist in the States.
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I don't think anyone gives a crap if Trump takes/has taken hair growth medication, apart from in a "slightly snigger about it" kind of way. What would be achieved by sharing that information? Even if patient confidentiality doesn't exist in the States, it's still an abuse of trust, and if I had a doctor who unduly shared pointless information about other patients, I wouldn't be happy.
It probably isn't legal according to HIPAA... usually there is paperwork involved in that and patients have to sign releases to allow family members access or for a records transfer. So a bit surprised to hear him say "Oh what big deal is it really...?"... um... I would imagine being in the medical business, patient privacy should be pretty up there...? Especially when you're hoping to maintain a celebrity as a client? That's also why a lot of celebrities use fake names when they fill their medications... because they care about their privacy. But I guess they offered him a lot of money to get an interview and weren't interested if he wasn't willing to divulge about his medical history...

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  • Information about you in your health insurer’s computer system
  • Billing information about you at your clinic
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Oh how I wish the Donald had once pushed past me in his hurry through Heathrow or suchlike, oh I how would jump on that 'Trump Shagged Me', Trump Pinched My Bum, I Know Trump Still Sleeps With His Teddy' Gravy Train.

Let me think.... Ah, yeah, a lawsuit for 'Grievous Bodily Harm' will do nicely. Oh, and maybe the Tabloids will cough up a few grand if I mention that Trump smelled of B.O as he beat me.

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Get money, Kirk We'll be waiting for that viral video to come out on Friday the 13th... i.e. your payday...
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He has a fine lock of hair......not as rigid as the donalds though.
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I think you're right. He never reported it to the police, which struck me as odd if he felt it was such an invasive move.... but then revealing information about patients is a HIPAA violation... so even if he did report, he would then be complicating things for himself... He kept that to himself, but when his official doctor was being ousted, suddenly he found the desire to bring up the raid...



Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-apo...050311510.html

Amusing nugget from the "leak" article...



Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/u...bornstein.html





It probably isn't legal according to HIPAA... usually there is paperwork involved in that and patients have to sign releases to allow family members access or for a records transfer. So a bit surprised to hear him say "Oh what big deal is it really...?"... um... I would imagine being in the medical business, patient privacy should be pretty up there...? Especially when you're hoping to maintain a celebrity as a client? That's also why a lot of celebrities use fake names when they fill their medications... because they care about their privacy. But I guess they offered him a lot of money to get an interview and weren't interested if he wasn't willing to divulge about his medical history...



Your Rights Under HIPAA
https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-indivi...ers/index.html



Get money, Kirk We'll be waiting for that viral video to come out on Friday the 13th... i.e. your payday...
It is becoming preposterous Maru.
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