[bitontheslide]

Anyone who commits a sexual offense has to go on the sex offenders register. Then people have a right to ask who is on the register in their area. That was a measure brought in to protect people from predators. By giving Venables anonymity, they are removing peoples ability to protect themselves from him, and giving him free reign to commit further offences. That cannot be right, particularly given the gravity of his past. If he can't be protected on the streets and he is a danger to others, then it seems pretty obvious to me, he just shouldn't be released in to society.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

I’ve always been a fan of the UK justice system... Imagine the sort of crimes Venables (or any other psycho) would commit if they knew they’re about to receive a death penalty anyway.

Why are there so many mass-shootings in America? Imo, because, you murder one guy -you’re in jail for life, you murder ten guys, and they’ll give you ten life sentences. Its dumb, and the criminals know this. You kill one guy in America, you might as well kill another 50, and its terrifying that this is logical.

Venables has served his punishment. Maybe I’m being thick, but isnt changing his identity just giving him a new name and passport? That seems best for everybody, considering that Kaz has basically just glorified a future potential murderer

Edit: surely he’s not allowed a passport. Is this just about him being called Billy instead of Jon?

The punishment he received has never fitted the crime. If you've ever read the things they did to that poor toddler you will realize very sick minds were involved. It wasn't just taking him to a train track and throwing bricks though that is bad enough. He was beaten, kicked, tortured and interfered with in a sexual, cruel way (his penis was injured and he was naked waist down) They put paint in his eyes and police believe batteries were inserted into his bottom. Even more disturbing children did this. There are some criminals like the Yorkshire ripper, Neilson and Ian Brady whose crimes were so depraved they will never be allowed into society again. Venables crime is right up there with them. In the best case scenario he should already be in broadmoor, in the worst should have been permanently tagged already. A fascination with child porn and interest in learning about how to abuse clearly shows he is not rehabilitated and has unnatural urges he seems to plan to act upon. A Manuel about how to have sex with children isn't on everyone's reading list. It's clearly a matter of time and opportunity.

No it isn't just a case of being given a new name. He will be relocated to a new part of the UK. He will have new papers and been found a place to live at the public's expense. He will likely be found work. All the documents needed for work, fake school records and qualifications will have to be provided. He will have social workers on tap. If he has contact with his family they will also have to be relocated if his identity is compromised. Giving anyone a new identity is a complex and expensive process.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The punishment he received has never fitted the crime. If you've ever read the things they did to that poor toddler you will realize very sick minds were involved. It wasn't just taking him to a train track and throwing bricks though that is bad enough. He was beaten, kicked, tortured and interfered with in a sexual, cruel way (his penis was injured and he was naked waist down) They put paint in his eyes and police believe batteries were inserted into his bottom. Even more disturbing children did this. There are some criminals like the Yorkshire ripper, Neilson and Ian Brady whose crimes were so depraved they will never be allowed into society again. Venables crime is right up there with them. In the best case scenario he should already be in broadmoor, in the worst should have been permanently tagged already. A fascination with child porn and interest in learning about how to abuse clearly shows he is not rehabilitated and has unnatural urges he seems to plan to act upon. A Manuel about how to have sex with children isn't on everyone's reading list. It's clearly a matter of time and opportunity.

No it isn't just a case of being given a new name. He will be relocated to a new part of the UK. He will have new papers and been found a place to live at the public's expense. He will likely be found work. All the documents needed for work, fake school records and qualifications will have to be provided. He will have social workers on tap. If he has contact with his family they will also have to be relocated if his identity is compromised. Giving anyone a new identity is a complex and expensive process.

Yep,we are taught never to lie and this new ID etc is the biggest lie of all.

[jaxie]

And there are so many mass shootings in America because you can buy a gun as easy as a candy bar and likely in the same store, they will still sell it you even though there is no proof you aren't mental, and semi automatic guns kill a lot of people quickly without the need for sniper skills. It's doubtful anyone with that mentality is thinking deeply about the consequences.