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Old 27-05-2018, 04:58 PM #26
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Yes that was his big error


He could have had someone else Film it.

So his breaching the peace
is because he is on this Suspended Sentence.
No..i think he breached the peace thus breaking his suspended sentence...he then has to serve whatever the sentence was for originally
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No..i think he breached the peace thus breaking his suspended sentence...he then has to serve whatever the sentence was for originally
Yes correct Mr.P
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What aggression or violence was he carrying out at the time?
I wasn't implying that he was, he was arrested in this case for violating the terms of his parole . And that I don't really understand why people are adamant that he shouldn't have been, and that I have little sympathy for him, on the basis that he's a thug who is doing nothing at all to help these issues no matter how much he would like to believe that he is.

At the very LEAST, he knew fine well that he was at risk of violating his terms of parole, and he chose to do so. Perhaps believing that nothing would come of it, perhaps not caring. Either way, his situation is entirely of his own making.
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"he was arrested in this case for violating the terms of his parole"

Yes TS
he was stupid trying to film on his phone
he has a Lawyer, that could have told him not to do that.

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Did the terms of his parole say "no selfie live streams"? I'm more concerned with child rape gangs than I am some twerp making a video, and it's rather stupid that he was arrested for trying to bring attention to the former.
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Did the terms of his parole say "no selfie live streams"? I'm more concerned with child rape gangs than I am some twerp making a video, and it's rather stupid that he was arrested for trying to bring attention to the former.

He Filmed with his phone
outside of a Court , I think.

It was stupid
someone else should have filmed it for him.
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Did the terms of his parole say "no selfie live streams"? I'm more concerned with child rape gangs than I am some twerp making a video, and it's rather stupid that he was arrested for trying to bring attention to the former.
They're not mutually exclusive... Being concerned about child grooming gangs doesn't mean you can't also be concerned about people like Tommy Robinson deliberately riling up hate mobs and creating g more problems than he solves. "I were just tryna get dem paedos guvna!" doesn't make him above the law. He was on parole, he violated it knowingly, he was arrested... It's as simple as that. If he wasn't, that would be a big green "go" sign to any and all other "have-a-go heroes" that's its fine.
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They're notThey're not mutually exclusive... Being concerned about child grooming gangs doesn't mean you can't also be concerned about people like Tommy Robinson deliberately riling up hate mobs and creating g more problems than he solves. "I were just tryna get dem paedos guvna!" doesn't make him above the law. He was on parole, he violated it knowingly, he was arrested... It's as simple as that. If he wasn't, that would be a big green "go" sign to any and all other "have-a-go heroes" that's its fine.
Which terms of his parole do you think he violated?
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Which terms of his parole do you think he violated?
Are you suggesting that the answer is "none" and he really is "innocent guv" and has been silenced in some sort of KGB style strike?
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Are you suggesting that the answer is "none" and he really is "innocent guv" and has been silenced in some sort of KGB style strike?
When all he ostensibly doing was making a video, I'm just wondering which terms of his parole he violated.
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Disturbing the peace

that was the charge
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I don't think the government's bending over backwards to falsely incarcerate a violent extremist chav that is known to be a compulsive liar. When it comes to this twat, it's always everyone else's fault but his own and this is no exception.

You'll get no end of people and right wing organisations who will jump to his defence despite the truth telling a different story to the one they'd prefer because the truth and facts only matter when it suits them.
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He is a rotten scumbag

Sure
you can say that.

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I don't think the government's bending over backwards to falsely incarcerate a violent extremist chav that is known to be a compulsive liar. When it comes to this twat, it's always everyone else's fault but his own and this is no exception.

You'll get no end of people and right wing organisations who will jump to his defence despite the truth telling a different story to the one they'd prefer because the truth and facts only matter when it suits them.
By all means lock him up, but keep a level playing field.
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By all means lock him up, but keep a level playing field.
I've no reason to believe there isn't a level playing field, it;s just him trying to make out he is the victim once again.
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I've no reason to believe there isn't a level playing field, it;s just him trying to make out he is the victim once again.
Why would i want a victim locked up dezzy?
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The guy is a complete knob head that has had a sinister and hateful agenda for years. Can people not see that he has attempted more manipulation and been stopped in his tracks. All the bs about him dying in prison is quite laughable given all the hate he has been personally inciting
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Don't care, hang him!
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I don't think the government's bending over backwards to falsely incarcerate a violent extremist chav that is known to be a compulsive liar. When it comes to this twat, it's always everyone else's fault but his own and this is no exception.

You'll get no end of people and right wing organisations who will jump to his defence despite the truth telling a different story to the one they'd prefer because the truth and facts only matter when it suits them.
So it's all lies about Muslim sex gangs raping girls for years and that the government and police have know about it.

He may be a knob to many but its the government and police that have let girls be raped and abused and ignored it in the name of not being racists.
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So it's all lies about Muslim sex gangs raping girls for years and that the government and police have know about it.

He may be a knob to many but its the government and police that have let girls be raped and abused and ignored it in the name of not being racists.
Like I said the two are unrelated. You don't have to support a ridiculous twitter "hardman" like Tommy Robinson in order to be concerned about child grooming gangs.
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I remember an interview he did with Piers morgan where pretty much out of the blue Robinson accused morgan of being hostile due to Robinsons working class roots. That told me this tw&t will say, or do, anything to be seen as a victim. The sad thing is he wasn't really losing the debate, so going to his working class background was astonishingly desperate.

He commited a crime by violating his parole and the police took the appropriate action. There is nothing more to discuss.
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If he doesn’t like our traditional British laws, he should leave the country... after serving his sentence of course.
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