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The Slim Reaper · 18-06-2018, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well it sure sounds like you are looking at this from a balanced perspective...

There's not a lot of balance to holding children hostage, but whatever works for you, I guess...

The Slim Reaper · 18-06-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Its not a magic wall...what a bloody childish thing to try and ridicule peoples opinions with...magic wall geez.

What would be withanos suggestion to stop the flood of illigal drugs and people both in usa and turkey?

You do know that immigration in the US is a net negative? That means there are more immigrants leaving than arriving, as has been the case for quite a few years now.

Withano · 18-06-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Its not a magic wall...what a bloody childish thing to try and ridicule peoples opinions with...magic wall geez.

What would be withanos suggestion to stop the flood of illigal drugs and people both in usa and turkey?

Do you believe a wall would stop someone from crossing a border haha. Idk why we’re having this discussion. Its 70billion dollars wasted.

Tougher penalties and more regular checks by a wider variety of people would make more sense than a wall.

A 70 billion dollar, muggle wall.

Withano · 18-06-2018, 04:57 PM

God I’m so sick of living in mexico

Lets go america

Cant, theres a wall

Oh ****

Yeh its literally impossible now

Oliver_W · 18-06-2018, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

At this time in USA
Its all about illegal immigrants
have their kids taken away from them,

I guess the alternatives to separating families are either releasing foreign criminals, or keeping children in the same facilities as adult criminals, neither of which are too appealing. Some kind of border control would be the best option, to stop the problems reaching that point.

arista · 18-06-2018, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I guess the alternatives to separating families are either releasing foreign criminals, or keeping children in the same facilities as adult criminals, neither of which are too appealing. Some kind of border control would be the best option, to stop the problems reaching that point.

Trump will stop it
Once the Democrats agree to fund his wall.

Its a big Tangle.

Alf · 18-06-2018, 05:21 PM

If Mexico wasn't run by drug cartels and corrupt leaders, then they wouldn't want to leave.

Why don't the Mexican people build an army and take their country back? Why should it be the people of the US problem, because the Mexicans can't get their own house in order?

arista · 18-06-2018, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

If Mexico wasn't run by drug cartels and corrupt leaders, then they wouldn't want to leave.

Why don't the Mexican people build an army and take their country back? Why should it be the people of the US problem, because the Mexicans can't get their own house in order?

Alf
at this time the Mexican Army
is having Shoot outs with fully armed Drug Gangs
They even get help from the FBI, at times.

parmnion · 18-06-2018, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You do know that immigration in the US is a net negative? That means there are more immigrants leaving than arriving, as has been the case for quite a few years now.

But do they include the ones sneeking in?

No, hence the need for the wall.

parmnion · 18-06-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

Do you believe a wall would stop someone from crossing a border haha. Idk why we’re having this discussion. Its 70billion dollars wasted.

Tougher penalties and more regular checks by a wider variety of people would make more sense than a wall.

A 70 billion dollar, muggle wall.

Ahll those checks by a wide variety of people for a border that big in legnth would obviously be done by voulanteers in your world....in mine it would mean an awful lot of people needing employed, trained..stationed year after year after year....i wonder how much that would eventually cost.

GiRTh · 18-06-2018, 05:37 PM

The wall will never be built. 70 billion is a bit steep but it will cost at least 30-40 minimum.

GiRTh · 18-06-2018, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well it sure sounds like you are looking at this from a balanced perspective...

Are you following it LT? Been on about it on cable news for a about a week and the White house press secretary has actually called it biblical to execute this policy. There arent really two sides to this issue. Children are being separated from their families for Donnies political gain.

Scarlett. · 18-06-2018, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well it sure sounds like you are looking at this from a balanced perspective...

So I imagine this is just fake news?

arista · 18-06-2018, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewcobo

So I imagine this is just fake news?

No it is real .
reported on CNN HD/FoxNewsHD/UK Radio 4
and Ch4HD News.

parmnion · 18-06-2018, 06:26 PM

That guard needs to turn round cause theres 3 sneeking out.

Withano · 18-06-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Ahll those checks by a wide variety of people for a border that big in legnth would obviously be done by voulanteers in your world....in mine it would mean an awful lot of people needing employed, trained..stationed year after year after year....i wonder how much that would eventually cost.

So, zero staff at your wall... sounding a bit like a magic wall again.

parmnion · 18-06-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano

So, zero staff at your wall... sounding a bit like a magic wall again.

Hell no, armed guards every 10 meters.

You're the only one bothered about costing.

The Slim Reaper · 18-06-2018, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Hell no, armed guards every 10 meters.

You're the only one bothered about costing.

The republicans have just put a stop to the chip programme which specifically helps poor and disabled children get healthcare, and they've also ended the provision in Obamacare which stopped insurance companies hiking up prices, or just flat out refusing to offer a policy to a person with a pre-existing condition.

As a citizen of any country, where would your funding priorities lie?

GiRTh · 18-06-2018, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Hell no, armed guards every 10 meters.

You're the only one bothered about costing.

Who's going to provide this security - The Mexicans? So is the US to pull resources from other law enforcement departments to patrol Donnies wall when it has already been stated that net immigration is down in the US? And something tells me - dont know if you'll agree - this wall will be a target for vandalism.

parmnion · 18-06-2018, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

The republicans have just put a stop to the chip programme which specifically helps poor and disabled children get healthcare, and they've also ended the provision in Obamacare which stopped insurance companies hiking up prices, or just flat out refusing to offer a policy to a person with a pre-existing condition.

As a citizen of any country, where would your funding priorities lie?

With both...and as a leader i am fully expecting trump to better any crap that suspected paedophile on some conspiracy theorists websites,obama could come up with.

parmnion · 18-06-2018, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh

Who's going to provide this security - The Mexicans? So is the US to pull resources from other law enforcement departments to patrol Donnies wall when it has already been stated that net immigration is down in the US? And something tells me - dont know if you'll agree - this wall will be a target for vandalism.

You lost me mate.

The Slim Reaper · 18-06-2018, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

With both...and as a leader i am fully expecting trump to better any crap that suspected paedophile on some conspiracy theorists websites,obama could come up with.

Do you think Obama is a pedophile? You do know that he wanted a more progressive single-payer healthcare plan, but he pandered to the right to try and make it bipartisan by actually using what was Bob Dole's old healthcare proposal.

Here's the kicker for you, all of Trumps healthcare proposals have all been scored (by the independent, bipartisan CBO) as kicking tens of millions off healthcare coverage and raising costs. Obamacare was supposed to be the first step towards providing healthcare at a reasonable cost (obama even said it needed to be improved). Before Obamacare, the biggest reason for bankruptcies in the US was healthcare costs.