[Matthew.]

Either JC, Kaycee or Tyler will win BB20.

Who do you want to win? Vote in the poll above! ⬆️

[Matthew.]

Tyler to win!

[RileyH]

Tyler duh

[lewis111]

Kaycee, but Tyler would do just not JC

[Jason.]

Kaycee.

Tyler's just another tedious overdog aimed at the lowest common denominator and JC is an awful person.

[Morgan.]

Kaycee

[JerseyWins]

Tyler EASY

Kaycee would still be fine and even JC would be oook but very disappointing compared to Tyler.

I also still think Tyler will win despite the bitter buildup so that adds to the potential disappointment. Kaycee still just as likely to win though

[JerseyWins]

WORST part about a Tyler loss would be that the show is then setting a precedent for bitterness & resentment for the person playing the best/hardest game. For someone like Paul it honestly makes sense but Tyler is someone that wasn't nasty and only had questionable jury management with like 2 people (Bayleigh & Brett at a stretch).

It also depends how he comes across in his final speech/questions though

[DouglasS]

The only way Tyler will lose surely is if hes not in the final 3 and JC wins and takes Kaycee... But even then I reckon JC might take Tyler...

[Vladimir]

Kaycee but the final three is awful

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

WORST part about a Tyler loss would be that the show is then setting a precedent for bitterness & resentment for the person playing the best/hardest game. For someone like Paul it honestly makes sense but Tyler is someone that wasn't nasty and only had questionable jury management with like 2 people (Bayleigh & Brett at a stretch).

It also depends how he comes across in his final speech/questions though

How can you say that when you were bitter in Over The Top 2? Pot kettle black BITCH!

My vote goes to the Lgbgtt community Kaycee

[Ramsay]

Tyler the overall better player, wouldn't be too pissed at a KC won though as she really came through the second half of the season. JUST NOT JC PLEASE.

[Pro Sniper]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

WORST part about a Tyler loss would be that the show is then setting a precedent for bitterness & resentment for the person playing the best/hardest game. For someone like Paul it honestly makes sense but Tyler is someone that wasn't nasty and only had questionable jury management with like 2 people (Bayleigh & Brett at a stretch).

It also depends how he comes across in his final speech/questions though

This would only be valid if the gameplay from the person in question was indisputably the "best/hardest" and ultimately superior to those in opposition. Can you honestly say the production pet has been so far ahead of both..that the jury would have to be considered "bitter" if he lost?

JC is a Paras type player, floating around pretending he's the mastermind behind 12,000 moves. I despise these types, but I'm always reminded that it's just as powerful(if not more so) as steamrolling with comp wins. Socially he's been sweet with most jurors bar 1 blow-out with Bayleigh. Then we have KC who has been socially plum, bar 1 blow-out with ridiculous Rockstar. So it can hardly be argued that Tyler's been socially superior to either. In fact, it can be said that the tedious 1 has brought trouble to himself by overplaying.. e.g not being honest with those he's mugged off for long enough when the time is clearly calling. As well as doing pathetic shyte that brings unnecessary heat on himself.. e.g that laughable "2-step" nonsense to Brett. With the advantages that comes with promising everyone the world(making multiple f-2 deals) there's one HUGE, obvious disadvantage to it. So don't cry like a bitch if that disadvantage comes back to **** you up. This is where we can mark KC up as well. For she never put herself in a position that would see her potentially/ultimately mug off several people at any one time.

Comp wins/game moves wise, both KC and Tyler have JC dominated. Fairly or not(Tyler's cheating HOH win, both conveniently racking up umpteen "blind" wins etc..) but either way, they can hardly be separated in gaining "important" wins for their Level FIX alliance..allowing them to take out "dangers"/trash with 0 fuss. So the question remains(particularly against KC) what makes Tyler the unambiguous winner?

[Guuki]

Kaycee The POV Queen!

[Zizu]

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[Macie Lightfoot]

oh my GOD Pro Sniper can you give it a rest already

[Pro Sniper]

Give what a rest? The truth? Do you think I enjoy pointing out how ridiculous it is? But unlike so many, I'm not prepared to pretend I can't see what's going on.

What could be and should be a fair, entertaining game, is tampered with to the point of ruination. Maybe if more people were prepared to open their eyes and speak out about how bad it is, the rigging bastards would feel enough pressure to stop their nonsense. Which would allow us to enjoy a fair, entertaining, unpredictable game(imagine that? UNPREDICTABLE..) culminating in a winner nobody could have a problem with(even if we personally dislike)

[Zizu]

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[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Lewis G


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Hahaaaaaaaa

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

Hahaaaaaaaa

I'm in the wrong place .... aren't I ?



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[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

Give what a rest? The truth? Do you think I enjoy pointing out how ridiculous it is? But unlike so many, I'm not prepared to pretend I can't see what's going on.

What could be and should be a fair, entertaining game, is tampered with to the point of ruination. Maybe if more people were prepared to open their eyes and speak out about how bad it is, the rigging bastards would feel enough pressure to stop their nonsense. Which would allow us to enjoy a fair, entertaining, unpredictable game(imagine that? UNPREDICTABLE..) culminating in a winner nobody could have a problem with(even if we personally dislike)

Sis I was THERE for all the shadiness in BB8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 18, and 19 but this season has been soooooo ****ing tame compared to the shenanigans Grodner has pulled in the past. Your "proof" of the show being rigged for Tyler has consisted of, like, a tweet from Rachel about how they edited the first safety comp out of order, a conspiracy theory about an endurance HOH that people were just pissed that Haleigh lost (myself included!), and a bunch of athletic people beating the likes of Sam and JC in timed session Comps. Get back to me when there's shady POV draws, multiple weeks of unfettered safety, and tangible DR manipulation. The *only* shadiness we've had all season is that Tyler was on TKO, which really just proves that production is rooting for him to win because he was almost cast for OTT and won the first HOH Comp early on and it would be easy ****ing storytelling for the mastermind to win out. Everything else though... you're reaching hun.

[Pro Sniper]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Sis I was THERE for all the shadiness in BB8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 18, and 19 but this season has been soooooo ****ing tame compared to the shenanigans Grodner has pulled in the past. Your "proof" of the show being rigged for Tyler has consisted of, like, a tweet from Rachel about how they edited the first safety comp out of order, a conspiracy theory about an endurance HOH that people were just pissed that Haleigh lost (myself included!), and a bunch of athletic people beating the likes of Sam and JC in timed session Comps. Get back to me when there's shady POV draws, multiple weeks of unfettered safety, and tangible DR manipulation. The *only* shadiness we've had all season is that Tyler was on TKO, which really just proves that production is rooting for him to win because he was almost cast for OTT and won the first HOH Comp early on and it would be easy ****ing storytelling for the mastermind to win out. Everything else though... you're reaching hun.

So, you're prepared to see and acknowledge that the whole narrative was centred around him from the get-go,, yet you can't see/won't acknowledge he's been guided through the game with help and favours, because the level of the rigging hasn't been transparent enough His early (CRUSHING) blind wins were as kosher as the gift of his 2 month safety net? His crawling up the ass of silly Sam(who was conveniently gifted the other safety net, a pathetic nonentity who was clearly in there for the sole purpose of giving him a head start in jury votes(Raven for Paul), was just "luck" or "good gameplay"?) The cheating of an HOH win(quite unreal that an obvious rule break is seen as a "conspiracy theory") was just an oversight by those running the game? Fessy willingly targets his own alliance members(at a critical point in the game) over Level FIX? The sole f-2 deal he made from the off that had any realness to it, happens to make up the other half who specialise in blind comp wins?(not all of which were "athletic") Yes, it's all just "luck", "coincidence" and of course "brilliant gameplay" that's accounted for all that's went in his favour..

I find it quite strange that someone who acknowledges the show has been involved in heavy riggage, is unwilling to admit that this is just more of the same. Maybe the problem is you're judging it against previous rigging which was much more "obvious" to you.

While none of us will ever have any concrete "proof" of their obvious underhanded filth, is it really unreasonable or "far-fetched" that after watching a familiar, sickening, production themed narrative be rammed down our throats, to believe it's highly plausible they'd use these blind spots to take the easy opportunity of crediting a win where it's "needed"?

What's the worst part of this game for the fans, but best for production? Without a doubt the answer is blind comps. An area where we as fans must trust them to play fair and act with honesty and integrity. Please forgive me for not having faith in the well known lying, rigging, cheating scumbag bastards.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

Kc... Jc is repulsive and I want Tyler to lose because i can't stand him being shuffed down our throats and want him to lose for lols

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

So, you're prepared to see and acknowledge that the whole narrative was centred around him from the get-go,, yet you can't see/won't acknowledge he's been guided through the game with help and favours, because the level of the rigging hasn't been transparent enough His early (CRUSHING) blind wins were as kosher as the gift of his 2 month safety net? His crawling up the ass of silly Sam(who was conveniently gifted the other safety net, a pathetic nonentity who was clearly in there for the sole purpose of giving him a head start in jury votes(Raven for Paul), was just "luck" or "good gameplay"?) The cheating of an HOH win(quite unreal that an obvious rule break is seen as a "conspiracy theory") was just an oversight by those running the game? Fessy willingly targets his own alliance members(at a critical point in the game) over Level FIX? The sole f-2 deal he made from the off that had any realness to it, happens to make up the other half who specialise in blind comp wins?(not all of which were "athletic") Yes, it's all just "luck", "coincidence" and of course "brilliant gameplay" that's accounted for all that's went in his favour..

I find it quite strange that someone who acknowledges the show has been involved in heavy riggage, is unwilling to admit that this is just more of the same. Maybe the problem is you're judging it against previous rigging which was much more "obvious" to you.

While none of us will ever have any concrete "proof" of their obvious underhanded filth, is it really unreasonable or "far-fetched" that after watching a familiar, sickening, production themed narrative be rammed down our throats, to believe it's highly plausible they'd use these blind spots to take the easy opportunity of crediting a win where it's "needed"?

What's the worst part of this game for the fans, but best for production? Without a doubt the answer is blind comps. An area where we as fans must trust them to play fair and act with honesty and integrity. Please forgive me for not having faith in the well known lying, rigging, cheating scumbag bastards.

*sigh* I don't even know why I'm bothering to engage but...

-A huge reason why the season's narrative has been centered around him was entirely circumstantial. Swaggy C didn't save Tyler's group so he was eligible to play in the first HOH Comp, and then he became HOH and obviously received a huge amount of focus because the first HOH always does, and then he won a Power App because he received a huge amount of focus since he was the first HOH and he was an easy choice for casual viewers.
-Tyler's done well enough in comps that weren't done in individually timed sessions, so I don't think it's outlandish to just accept his sessioned Comp wins at face value. Especially because half the time it wasn't even in Tyler's best interest to win an HOH or a POV Comp, but it lines up with the idea that Tyler's game has been unnecessarily sloppy/messy and he's been constantly trying to put out his own fires (which is easy since nobody cares enough to hold him accountable for anything.)
-Sam has been a consistently unique character from start to finish, and it's perfectly within her personality to be steadfastly loyal to someone who saved her early on. This is literally nothing Raven who had previously met Paul at a meet and greet and had a picture with him, especially when you consider the possibility that Sam allegedly can't trust Tyler anymore and might vote against him.
-He didn't cheat in the endurance HOH lol. The standard has been that you can't sit on your disc, and Kaycee's ~incriminating DR~ didn't really tell us anything. She said that you have to keep one foot on at all times or else you'll slip and if you land on your butt you're out. That doesn't mean "if your feet come off you're out," it means that "if you feet come off, you're very likely to slip and fall on your butt, and if you fall on your butt you're out." The ~obvious rule break~ you're citing is just people taking a DR session out of context and capriciously applying it so it benefits their favorites.
-Fessy being a complete moron? he would never! (For real though, if you were genuinely shocked that he nominated the two guys who Haleigh spent the most time with, you really just haven't been following this show as closely as you think you have been.)
-A professional athlete being good at Competitions, particularly ones that involve some degree of hand-eye coordination? RIGGED!!!!!!!!!

So yeah, you really have nothing here.

[Matthew.]

my god you lot like to make your posts as long as possible