[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The fact they're not white is the punchline though.

Are you outraged by this?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But... this aint a chat thread. So, unless it's relevant to the topic I'm baffled by its inclusion.

Just trying to lighten things a bit Marshy and stop all you nutters fighting.

I will remove it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Just trying to lighten things a bit Marshy and stop all you nutters fighting.

I will remove it.

I thought it was funny

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I thought it was funny

Thank you, Niamh. It is funny because it's true.

Anyhoo, taken it down now, don't want Marshy getting his yfronts in a knot.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Are you outraged by this?

No. And whether I was outraged or not doesn't deflect from the fact that the actual purpose of this joke was to poke fun at Africans.

If it's not to poke fun at them, there is no joke there. Do you see?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Thank you, Niamh. It is funny because it's true.

Anyhoo, taken it down now, don't want Marshy getting his yfronts in a knot.

No knots here. Just thought it was a poor attempt at finding a white man joke.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No knots here. Just thought it was a poor attempt at finding a white man joke.

I wasn't trying to find a white man joke I looked for a football joke. I was trying to deflect from the uproar caused by such a mild joke. I see no intent in it, and yet, despite the crap going on in the world, people are going to waste their energy reacting to it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I wasn't trying to find a white man joke I looked for a football joke. I was trying to deflect from the uproar caused by such a mild joke. I see no intent in it, and yet, despite the crap going on in the world, people are going to waste their energy reacting to it.

Tbf, I don't think many people see racist intention in it. I actually like Lord Sugar.

He was just dumb to think a racist joke wouldn't be taken the way it has been.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No. And whether I was outraged or not doesn't deflect from the fact that the actual purpose of this joke was to poke fun at Africans.

If it's not to poke fun at them, there is no joke there. Do you see?

and what is wrong with poking fun at Africans?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

and what is wrong with poking fun at Africans?

Nothing. There's nothing wrong with poking fun at anyone.

Making their race the butt of the joke, however, is.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

A mistake apologising, now the vultures will swarm in, just like they did when Roseanne apologised.

Alf you're so exasperating
Can't you be consistent and talk sense THROUGHOUT a thread?
You started well and then you went and dragged Roseanne into this.
Sugar's tweet was nowhere near as offensive as Roseanne's
Sugar tried to be funny and misjudged, Roseanne oth is racist

[Marsh.]

Tbf, Roseanne always tries to be funny with her racist comments.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

No. And whether I was outraged or not doesn't deflect from the fact that the actual purpose of this joke was to poke fun at Africans.

If it's not to poke fun at them, there is no joke there. Do you see?

But you see that this happens both ways right? You do know I could find some videos of Black comedians making jokes about White people, for just being White, don't you? And we'd all more than likely laugh at them too.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nothing. There's nothing wrong with poking fun at anyone.

Making their race the butt of the joke, however, is.

it's ok to joke at anyone, as long as you keep it funny and it's not racist


but Lord Sugar apologized for this now, so hopefully his humour can improve from now on

[Twosugars]

calling sb a monkey? not funny

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

calling sb a monkey? not funny

I don't recall saying it was. However, Roseanne thinks it is, ergo she says it for a laugh. The point being made.

You don't think she simply makes the comparison? She makes the comparison as her idea of a laugh and a joke to mock someone she doesn't like.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

But you see that this happens both ways right? You do know I could find some videos of Black comedians making jokes about White people, for just being White, don't you? And we'd all more than likely laugh at them too.

Knock yourself out, doesn't make your belief these kind of jokes aren't racist any less wrong.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

People seem to have lost their sense of humour now that everyone is offended by everything.

Got in there before me Livia, I totally agree,people just seem to want to find something to whinge at today,I thought it funny too

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Got in there before me Livia, I totally agree,people just seem to want to find something to whinge at today,I thought it funny too

Yes, because you really have to search hard to see racism in a racist joke.

[Twosugars]

but why is it a racist joke?
he could have said that about any team from a country known for enterprising migrants
why not Polish team full of plumbers and builders? Idgi

[Twosugars]

but why is it a racist joke?
he could have said that about any team from a country known for enterprising migrants
why not Polish team full of plumbers and builders? Idgi

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

but why is it a racist joke?

Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.

it's about them doing two jobs, selling sunglasses in Spain and playing football for Senegal
enterprising migrants comes to mind, not skin colour
no, I don't get it, sorry sis
nvm

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.

So what do you think should happen now?

Should the Police get involved?
Should the BBC fire him?
Should he be branded a racist for the rest of his days?
Should he give money to a charity?
Or now that he's apologised, shall we just move on?
Or something else?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

it's about them doing two jobs, selling sunglasses in Spain and playing football for Senegal
enterprising migrants comes to mind, not skin colour
no, I don't get it, sorry sis
nvm

You don't see where race comes into it?

So, he'd have used this joke alongside an image of ANY football team then, right?