[Toy Soldier]

Normie marriage is about lovehearts and holding hands, gay marriage is all about penises and bums and spunk every all everywhere. Walls, ceilings, everywhere. Take a mug out of the cupboard and what's that in the bottom? OH JUST GAY SPERM. So don't start telling me that it's OK for homosexuality to ejaculate it's way into kids television, I'm not having it.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Normie marriage is about lovehearts and holding hands, gay marriage is all about penises and bums and spunk every all everywhere. Walls, ceilings, everywhere. Take a mug out of the cupboard and what's that in the bottom? OH JUST GAY SPERM. So don't start telling me that it's OK for homosexuality to ejaculate it's way into kids television, I'm not having it.

...see this is why you’ll never be in charge of a children’s TV network channel TS...because there’s all kinds of wrong in how you would portray gay marriage to very young children right there...now I can see why some may feel a little wary...

[Ammi]

..and who is Normie btw..?...is he/she in a straight marriage or in a gay one..?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Don’t try and railroad me Oliver - you know exactly what I mean.

I'm not trying to railroad - I'm just asking how a gay relationship is inherently more sexual than a straight one, especially if the presentation onscreen makes it so they're no different to straights?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm not trying to railroad - I'm just asking how a gay relationship is inherently more sexual than a straight one, especially if the presentation onscreen makes it so they're no different to straights?

How can being of a given sexuality not be based on sex. Also It has always been presumed (wedding night) that any such relationship is consummated to legitimise it. I wouldn’t imagine there are many, if any, such relationships that have never involved sex. It’s not all about sex, but sex is a very relevant part of it - especially in the young and/or new relationships.

At no point did I say a gay relationship was inherently more sexual. But including it in cartoons is about planting a seed - and I think it is inappropriate and unnecessary at that age.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

How can being of a given sexuality not be based on sex. Also It has always been presumed (wedding night) that any such relationship is consummated to legitimise it. I wouldn’t imagine there are many, if any, such relationships that have never involved sex. It’s not all about sex, but sex is a very relevant part of it - especially in the young and/or new relationships.

At no point did I say a gay relationship was inherently more sexual. But including it in cartoons is about planting a seed - and I think it is inappropriate and unnecessary at that age.

I guess we'd better not show parents in cartoons then - they have definitely bumped uglies at some point! In fact, all relatives are evidence of sex, better not show any!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

How can being of a given sexuality not be based on sex. Also It has always been presumed (wedding night) that any such relationship is consummated to legitimise it. I wouldn’t imagine there are many, if any, such relationships that have never involved sex. It’s not all about sex, but sex is a very relevant part of it - especially in the young and/or new relationships.

At no point did I say a gay relationship was inherently more sexual. But including it in cartoons is about planting a seed - and I think it is inappropriate and unnecessary at that age.

...but heterosexual is a sexuality also...but there are many portrayals of love and marriage for children within that sexuality...is that wrong also, Brillo...Cinderella and Prince Charming, Aladdin and Jasmine, Robin Hood and Maid Marion, Ariel and Eric...are they all wrong because they portray heterosexual love and marriage so are based on sex..?...

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...but heterosexual is a sexuality also...but there are many portrayals of love and marriage for children within that sexuality...is that wrong also, Brillo...Cinderella and Prince Charming, Aladdin and Jasmine, Robin Hood and Maid Marion, Ariel and Eric...are they all wrong because they portray heterosexual love and marriage so are based on sex..?...

They don't have bum fun or oral shenanigans and there's only 50% of the semen (a manageable amount) so it's acceptable.

[Tom4784]

The negative reactions to this scene wouldn't have happened if it was a straight couple getting engaged. If you don't have a problem with hte likes of Disney pushing heterosexual love stories on children for decades then you can't argue against the same kind of love story that just so happens to feature a same sex couple.

It just goes to show that the problem is not with 'shoving something down people's throats' but the fact that it's a homosexual relationship that's the problem.

[Toy Soldier]

Homosexuality is just too PC for pre watershed television to be quite honest. One minute they're watching two men getting engaged, the next they're buying Trump balloons using their benefits money and voting for Jeremy Corbyn. It has to end somewhere.

[Tom4784]

Youtube video

The clip in question, you could have the same scene in any fairy tale or kids show and people wouldn't blink if it was a straight couple.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by montblanc

steven universe is honestly a GORGEOUS show

i must say the cartoons on cartoon network lately look stupid but are actually quite interesting

then why didn't you comment on my SU thread? FAKE

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by montblanc

i must say the cartoons on cartoon network lately look stupid but are actually quite interesting

We stan Gumball

[Toy Soldier]

Surely it's more concerning that one of them is blatantly a child

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by RileyH

We stan Gumball

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Surely it's more concerning that one of them is blatantly a child

they're both at least 5,750 years old

[Vicky.]

I actually can't believe this is the first time its happened in a cartoon.

I do think though, it should be more common but also a huge fuss doesn't have to be made each time. Like, kids will see this, and then see all the fuss about it and think 'hey, this must not be normal given the fanfare/kickoffs about it'...if that makes sense? Just needs to be more common but with less fuss, IMO.

Not understanding the protests at all. And I much prefer to see gay weddings that humans marrying animals and such

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

they're both at least 5,750 years old

So is Baby Jesus but you don't see him getting married do you.

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

So is Baby Jesus but you don't see him getti g married do you.

Th'baby Jesus is only around 2,000 years old

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I actually can't believe this is the first time its happened in a cartoon.

I do think though, it should be more common but also a huge fuss doesn't have to be made each time. Like, kids will see this, and then see all the fuss about it and think 'hey, this must not be normal given the fanfare/kickoffs about it'...if that makes sense? Just needs to be more common but with less fuss, IMO.

Not understanding the protests at all. And I much prefer to see gay weddings that humans marrying animals and such

In time there won't be a fuss but for now there has to be otherwise the negative response would be louder and taint the whole situation.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...but heterosexual is a sexuality also...but there are many portrayals of love and marriage for children within that sexuality...is that wrong also, Brillo...Cinderella and Prince Charming, Aladdin and Jasmine, Robin Hood and Maid Marion, Ariel and Eric...are they all wrong because they portray heterosexual love and marriage so are based on sex..?...

I never used the word ‘wrong’ about either sexuality Ammi. I just know that like many parents I wouldn’t want that seed planted in my children’s minds so young. It am also annoyed by the continued pressure from certain quarters to force parents to conform to their way of thinking.

I think secondary school is a perfectly suitable time for children to learn more about same sex relationships and the rights of parents of that opinion to have that opinion are just as valid as those who don’t agree. The pushiness of some on this subject is getting pretty tiresome to be honest - I don’t mean you Ammi, you are always pleasant and considerate even when you don’t agree.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

Th'baby Jesus is only around 2,000 years old

That doesn't sound right...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

In time there won't be a fuss but for now there has to be otherwise the negative response would be louder and taint the whole situation.

Oh yeah I understand that.

Genuinely not sure what people are objecting to here. I could understand if the cartoon had showed graphic scenes of the wedding night or something, but that would be an issue with a straight relationship too

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I never used the word ‘wrong’ about either sexuality Ammi. I just know that like many parents I wouldn’t want that seed planted in my children’s minds so young. It am also annoyed by the continued pressure from certain quarters to force parents to conform to their way of thinking.

I think secondary school is a perfectly suitable time for children to learn more about same sex relationships and the rights of parents of that opinion to have that opinion are just as valid as those who don’t agree. The pushiness of some on this subject is getting pretty tiresome to be honest - I don’t mean you Ammi, you are always pleasant and considerate even when you don’t agree.

...yeah sorry I should have said inappropriate or not suitable, Brillo...apologies for that...I guess I’m just trying to understand your thought connections in this...I mean I see you have an opinion but there reasons for our opinions, you know reasons why they’re formed...either with experiences or thought processes and connections..?..and I’m just struggling to understand really because I’d like to say...ah yeah, I do see...even if I don’t agree, at least I do understand why your opinion is what it is, you know....?...anyways I don’t want to contribute to any ‘pushed feelings’ ...so I’ll just leave it there...


...I think it’s just that thing for me that some people seem to perceive gay as ‘sex’ but don’t perceive straight as ‘sex’ in the same way, which when you think about it, doesn’t make sense...gay people love, straight people love and so far as young children’s information goes...that’s as far as the story goes...people love in a romantic way, sexuality doesn’t need to be addressed any further...

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Lilbro

then why didn't you comment on my SU thread? FAKE

i didn’t know you had one