[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by MB.

Nothing like a bunch of straight people to lecture us on where homophobia is and isn't!

Do you ever think straight people are sick to the back teeth of groups of people DEMANDING to be treat as a special case due to their sexuality or race ?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by MB.

Nothing like a bunch of straight people to lecture us on where homophobia is and isn't!

sometimes its good to get perspective

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Do you ever think straight people are sick to the back teeth of groups of people DEMANDING to be treat as a special case due to their sexuality or race ?

Poor straight people, it must be so tiring to hear about inequality and abuses that other people suffer.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Poor straight people, it must be so tiring to hear about inequality and abuses that other people suffer.

I know lots of gay people, some in my family, not one of them have been attacked

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Poor straight people, it must be so tiring to hear about inequality and abuses that other people suffer.

What do you want to be equal in that you are not equal in already ?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

What do you want to be equal in that you are not equal in already ?

I'm bisexual, I know what it's like to walk down the street with a woman and how different it is when I do the same with a man. With a woman, I can be physically affectionate without worrying about a thing but with a man I won't even think of holding their hand. With a man I have to constantly be wary of people and how they react and if they might react violently. If I'm in a relationship with a man, I can't talk about it with people like I would if I was in a relationship with a woman because I constantly have to think 'would this person be a threat if they knew I wasn't straight?'

I've lived on both sides and homophobia is definitely a thing, especially when you look at this thread and see straight people denying that homophobia exists.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm bisexual, I know what it's like to walk down the street with a woman and how different it is when I do the same with a man. With a woman, I can be physically affectionate without worrying about a thing but with a man I won't even think of holding their hand. With a man I have to constantly be wary of people and how they react and if they might react violently. If I'm in a relationship with a man, I can't talk about it with people like I would if I was in a relationship with a woman because I constantly have to think 'would this person be a threat if they knew I wasn't straight?'

I've lived on both sides and homophobia is definitely a thing, especially when you look at this thread and see straight people denying that homophobia exists.

Its 2018 not 1918

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm bisexual, I know what it's like to walk down the street with a woman and how different it is when I do the same with a man. With a woman, I can be physically affectionate without worrying about a thing but with a man I won't even think of holding their hand. With a man I have to constantly be wary of people and how they react and if they might react violently. If I'm in a relationship with a man, I can't talk about it with people like I would if I was in a relationship with a woman because I constantly have to think 'would this person be a threat if they knew I wasn't straight?'

I've lived on both sides and homophobia is definitely a thing, especially when you look at this thread and see straight people denying that homophobia exists.

no one is denying it exists

that is just silly

[Mystic Mock]

I get where he is coming from to some extent, but for example on average you aren't gonna see many straight guys buy gay guys Music because yes there is gonna be a stigma behind it with some Homophobic remarks thrown in, but also straight guys tastes and gay guys tastes in Music do tend to be very different when putting them into stereotypical boxes.

Women tend to normally be more comfortable with supporting gay guys in the Music Industry I think.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its 2018 not 1918

Yet it's still a problem, unless you're trying to tell me that you know more about homophobia then someone that's lived it?

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no one is denying it exists

that is just silly

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Its 2018 not 1918

Really?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no one is denying it exists

that is just silly

To the degree that's being claimed? I don't think for one minute it does

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm bisexual, I know what it's like to walk down the street with a woman and how different it is when I do the same with a man. With a woman, I can be physically affectionate without worrying about a thing but with a man I won't even think of holding their hand. With a man I have to constantly be wary of people and how they react and if they might react violently. If I'm in a relationship with a man, I can't talk about it with people like I would if I was in a relationship with a woman because I constantly have to think 'would this person be a threat if they knew I wasn't straight?'

I've lived on both sides and homophobia is definitely a thing, especially when you look at this thread and see straight people denying that homophobia exists.

Got to agree with this. been a long time since I was with a woman, but the difference is stark. Its a bit different, I think for female/female relationships than male/male, as men tend to like female/female stuff so instead of abuse we got random pervs shouting sexual stuff at us. I am not sure if I would prefer homophobic abuse or perverts still being homophobic but thinking they are behaving in a 'positive way'. People who have never experienced this deny it exists, but it really does. And yes, its everywhere. Even the stares and such are pretty bad. I can walk holding hands with my husband and noone thinks anything of it but do it with a female and its all eyes on you + comments. The pervy guys get even more pervy than usual too, instead of having erections brushed on you, you get them grabbing your hand to put it on their erection. Ugh. Just remembering this all is enough to put you off men for life tbh.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I get where he is coming from to some extent, but for example on average you aren't gonna see many straight guys buy gay guys Music because yes there is gonna be a stigma behind it with some Homophobic remarks thrown in, but also straight guys tastes and gay guys tastes in Music do tend to be very different when putting them into stereotypical boxes.

Women tend to normally be more comfortable with supporting gay guys in the Music Industry I think.

well this will be news to Elton John where i would estimate 96% of all his music sales came from hetro people

[parmnion]

Thats an interesting point about linking homosexuals with sex all the time...

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

To the degree that's being claimed? I don't think for one minute it does

Congrats on your ignorance then

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Thats an interesting point about linking homosexuals with sex all the time...

time and time again

if the wee fella did actually care about homosexual rights he would have told them to stick their purile photoshoot

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

To the degree that's being claimed? I don't think for one minute it does

so it does exist?
but at levels you're comfortable with?
mustn't let those gays let equality get to their heads?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Got to agree with this. been a long time since I was with a woman, but the difference is stark. Its a bit different, I think for female/female relationships than male/male, as men tend to like female/female stuff so instead of abuse we got random pervs shouting sexual stuff at us. I am not sure if I would prefer homophobic abuse or perverts still being homophobic but thinking they are behaving in a 'positive way'. People who have never experienced this deny it exists, but it really does. And yes, its everywhere. Even the stares and such are pretty bad. I can walk holding hands with my husband and noone thinks anything of it but do it with a female and its all eyes on you + comments. The pervy guys get even more pervy than usual too, instead of having erections brushed on you, you get them grabbing your hand to put it on their erection. Ugh. Just remembering this all is enough to put you off men for life tbh.

Straight girls in short dresses in town every Saturday night get the same thing

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well this will be news to Elton John where i would estimate 96% of all his music sales came from hetro people

he fooled you, pretended to be straight, got you hooked on his stuff, then came out when it was a done deal

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

he fooled you, pretended to be straight, got you hooked on his stuff, then came out when it was a done deal

at least Bowie was straight

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well this will be news to Elton John where i would estimate 96% of all his music sales came from hetro people

One case isn't exactly the norm is it?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

One case isn't exactly the norm is it?

what about all the other artists quoted in this thread ?

all huge icons of the music industry

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Smithy

Congrats on your ignorance then

And well done to you too

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Straight girls in short dresses in town every Saturday night get the same thing

Yes, women in general do. However women in relationships with each other get it worse, from my experience anyway.