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Old 13-07-2018, 11:02 AM #51
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What did he say about his daughter, that passed me by?

The views of those white Southerners are evidently a minority in the USA, and increasingly so!
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Middle Eastern muslims throw gays off roofs, while in Indonesia 93% of muslims think being gay is unacceptable, and even in London only half of muslims think being gay is okay. There might be superficial differences country to country, but the same crap comes up.
You mean extremists that belong to terrorist organisations, right? Suggesting that all muslims in the middle east do or support that is a dangerously ignorant statement.

Most religions demonise the gays, you can't pick on muslims for it when a good chunk of all religious people believe that homosexuality is a sin. Conversion therapy is a real and present danger and that's something that is purely western in nature.

If you're going to hate on a religion, hate on them all since a lot of the points you're hitting on is not exclusive to muslims.
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Trump is correct in what he has stated and THAT subject is what this thread should be about.
Except he isn't correct about anything he's said about the UK. He knows nothing of UK culture or culture in general. Anybody who thinks that culture is a static thing doesn't understand what culture is.
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What did he say about his daughter, that passed me by?

The views of those white Southerners are evidently a minority in the USA, and increasingly so!
It's probably come from some rag top newpaper,or the silly made up stuff from his detractors,all hearsay,until proved
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“By the way, your daughter,” Stern said to Trump.

“She’s beautiful,” the brash businessman responded.

“Can I say this? A piece of ass,” Stern asked.

“Yeah,” Trump replied.
So rather than referring to her that way himself, he said that a "shock jock" on an R-rated radio show could say it.
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Stopping Illegal Migrants
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Where in the article does it state he’s talking about illegal migrants?

It doesn’t
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Where in the article does it state he’s talking about illegal migrants?

It doesn’t
The UK has no idea what migrants are legal or illegal so that is a null point
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What culture? Pork pies, the EDL, and coal mines?

Good riddance
Maybe you have no culture - others of us do! The usual if you don't value something it doesn't exist nonsense. Speak for yourself - not the rest of us!
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Maybe you have no culture - others of us do! The usual if you don't value something it doesn't exist nonsense. Speak for yourself - not the rest of us!
What is British culture that’s being threatened then?
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What is British culture that’s being threatened then?
If you don't FEEL it you don't have it. It shouldn't need pointing out unless of course people just take everything our culture offers for granted because they know nothing different.
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The UK has no idea what migrants are legal or illegal so that is a null point
That's the UK fault, without border control and id cards you can't do it properly
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If you don't FEEL it you don't have it. It shouldn't need pointing out unless of course people just take everything our culture offers for granted because they know nothing different.
So it isn’t even an actual thing, it’s just a feeling, wow that makes the whole thing even ****ing stupider
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So it isn’t even an actual thing, it’s just a feeling, wow that makes the whole thing even ****ing stupider
It's much more than that as anyone who actually understands would know. But as I say culture is something you feel - something that has shaped your life and understanding, that gives you rights and freedoms, that makes you feel comfortable with a sense of belonging and pride and a lot more...
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It's much more than that as anyone who actually understands would know. But as I say culture is something you feel - something that has shaped your life and understanding, that gives you rights and freedoms, that makes you feel comfortable with a sense of belonging and pride and a lot more...
And people coming here take that away from you?

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Culture is history and tradition in part. It's not a feeling, it's certainly not something vague enough that you can deny someone's opinion on it by saying 'they don't understand.'

History and traditions are ever growing. It isn't overwritten, it just grows to encompass more and more aspects of living in Britain.

The whole idea that we are 'losing our culture' is as ignorant as when people are saying 'muslims are taking over'. It's just ignorant hysteria.

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It's much more than that as anyone who actually understands would know. But as I say culture is something you feel - something that has shaped your life and understanding, that gives you rights and freedoms, that makes you feel comfortable with a sense of belonging and pride and a lot more...
Culture isn't static, it's a dynamic constantly evolving thing. Curry and Kebabs are part of English culture, and yet only around 50-60 years ago, how many English people had ever tried them?

Public executions, child labour, and poor houses were part of our culture at one time, too.
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Culture is history and tradition in part. It's not a feeling, it's certainly not something vague enough that you can deny someone's opinion on it by saying 'they don't understand.'

History and traditions are ever growing. It isn't overwritten, it just grows to encompass more and more aspects of living in Britain.

The whole idea that we are 'losing our culture' is as ignorant as when people are saying 'muslims are taking over'. It's just ignorant hysteria.
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Culture isn't static, it's a dynamic constantly evolving thing. Curry and Kebabs are part of English culture, and yet only around 50-60 years ago, how many English people had ever tried them?

Public executions, child labour, and poor houses were part of our culture at one time, too.



“It’s a feeling”

What a load of bollocks, just an excuse to spout racist tosh
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So it isn’t even an actual thing, it’s just a feeling, wow that makes the whole thing even ****ing stupider
If there was a thread about gay culture i am quite sure your posts would not be attacking the word culture


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If there was a thread about gay culture i am quite sure your posts would not be attacking the word culture


Gay culture is a real thing though. It isn't a feeling, it's a history.

The battles for equal rights, the arts, history, speech and traditions. It's tangible and real.
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If there was a thread about gay culture i am quite sure your posts would not be attacking the word culture
That’s because I’m not ****ing ***** enough to claim that culture is a feeling
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If there was a thread about gay culture i am quite sure your posts would not be attacking the word culture


What does that have to do with anything? The discussion is the supposed harm migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are doing to english/british culture.
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That’s because I’m not ****ing ***** enough to claim that culture is a feeling
You clearly lack understanding if you don't get what I mean by 'feel'. Your problem not mine.
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You clearly lack understanding if you don't get what I mean by 'feel'. Your problem not mine.
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Gay culture is a real thing though. It isn't a feeling, it's a history.

The battles for equal rights, the arts, history, speech and traditions. It's tangible and real.
as is English, scottish Irish culture etc


i am glad you agree
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