[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely grass is more comfy than a bench in the summer...take them off for the winter cause no sane person sits on a cold bench.

or just take them off... and keep them off.

[parmnion]

Ashaleeeeen.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I like to rest my arm on them, so nah

but there will still be armrests most of the time. one on the far left hand side of the bench, and another at the far right hand side of the bench

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

but there will still be armrests most of the time. one on the far left hand side of the bench, and another at the far right hand side of the bench

I don't want to hog the whole bench tho

[LeatherTrumpet]

In the old days we had actual park keepers who would chase of homeless and keep the park good for families and old people

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't want to hog the whole bench tho

how often do you sit on park benches

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

how often do you sit on park benches

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In the old days we had actual park keepers who would chase of homeless and keep the park good for families and old people

And now they have to chase off the old people for the good of the homeless. It's weird how these things go in cycles...

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

And now they have to chase off the old people for the good of the homeless. It's weird how these things go in cycles...

no we design benches for people to sit on and not for folk to sleep on making parks intimidating

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Riley.

It’s just another thing in society that is trying to push homeless people out of sight so that people don’t have to “deal” with seeing it or recognise the real issue. These benches, spikes in doorways. Where do we want these people to go? It’s not going to make them go and live in a house. If the source of the problem isn’t being sorted out at least let the homeless be near people that can offer them food / money to survive.

HOw about in your house or the shed in the garden. Not so keen on that no doubt.

[Tom4784]

'You can't talk about society dehumanising the homeless unless you're willing to let a stranger live with you!'

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Considering they are intended to stop homeless people from sleeping on them, do you think these should be banned?

vote in the poll

I'm not actually sure,benches are made for people to sit down not for the homeless to sleep, it's useful for the elderly and people who suffer from a disability.

[ethanjames]

yes they need to be taken the majority of people don't need armrests all over the bench yet homeless people need a place to sleep. im sure there are expectations but the majority don't need those sort of benches

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

'You can't talk about society dehumanising the homeless unless you're willing to let a stranger live with you!'

Yeah, you can.
I have had a stranger live with me ... a street kid who had lost their way... but if I hadn't I still would he allowed to have a conversation about homelessness. It's what democratic societies have social servives set up for. Just because my govt failed in the duties my taxes pay for... doesn't mean I should be doing their job for them by letting people sleep in my house.

[LeatherTrumpet]

tea

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely grass is more comfy than a bench in the summer...take them off for the winter cause no sane person sits on a cold bench.

Yeah the homeless are very fussy about that.

[Glenn.]

No they shouldn’t be banned. I like a bench with an armrest

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

HOw about in your house or the shed in the garden. Not so keen on that no doubt.

Strawman argument.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Can anyone tell me is there any need to be homeless in the UK at the mo in terms of hostels and charities and council?

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Can anyone tell me is there any need to be homeless in the UK at the mo in terms of hostels and charities and council?

no offence but you sound like you’re saying it’s a choice

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

no offence but you sound like you’re saying it’s a choice

can you answer the question?

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you answer the question?

nobody chooses to be homeless,

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no we design benches for people to sit on and not for folk to sleep on making parks intimidating

Not sure anyone could begrudge a homeless person sleeping on a bench at a time they're curled up in their own bed in a warm house.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

no offence but you sound like you’re saying it’s a choice

Again, I have worked with various levels of people in poverty and on the streets.... and I have met many who did choose it. They don't fit into societal norms in their own right... and would refuse a roof over their heads over the night sky. But by that token... why do we refuse them a bench to sleep on at night? Why not live and let live. Not everyone fits into the mold we say they should.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not sure anyone could begrudge a homeless person sleeping on a bench at a time they're curled up in their own bed in a warm house.

but its not that is it

its drunks and druggies

dont peddle the innocent homeless myth

there are charities and council help for genuine homeless but there are those who shun that

i want to protect those who use parks for children and old people

i hope you do too