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Old 18-07-2018, 11:35 AM #26
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It appertains to the whole elm guest house conspiracy. A conspiracy with no legs, no proof that has been challenged and discredited time and again... and yet people believe it still. Because they want to.
A lot of that is down to the lack of living witnesses imo.
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A lot of that is down to the lack of living witnesses imo.
Then you're saying there is no evidence apart from anecdotal.
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Then you're saying there is no evidence apart from anecdotal.
S'pose so.
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That BBC News Manager Women
wants to waste public money on a appeal
claiming she was right to do it all.

We Fund the BBC
but should not be for this.
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It's nice how the "manager woman" doesn't warrant you to use her name.
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It's nice how the "manager woman" doesn't warrant you to use her name.
maybe she wants to stay anonymous
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[BBC director of news Fran Unsworth said the judgment would not just affect the corporation, but every media organisation's freedom to report on police investigations.
She said the resulting lack of scrutiny could "undermine the wider principle of the public's right to know" and would "put decision making in the hands of the police".]

https://news.sky.com/story/sir-cliff...m-bbc-11440607
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[BBC director of news Fran Unsworth said the judgment would not just affect the corporation, but every media organisation's freedom to report on police investigations.
She said the resulting lack of scrutiny could "undermine the wider principle of the public's right to know" and would "put decision making in the hands of the police".]

https://news.sky.com/story/sir-cliff...m-bbc-11440607
I'd rather the decision was in the hands of the police, than in the hands of a newspaper or agency that is interested only in viewing figures and circulation.
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you have to acknowledge that he's had hit records in every decade in the 1950s
How many decades were there in the 1950s?
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How many decades were there in the 1950s?
Just one but it feels like 5 because Cliff is so boring.
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LOL.... oops. Of course I meant SINCE the 1950s.
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In America cliffs house getting raided is an every day occurrence

Fame is a two way street I wonder is some unknown would get the same pay out as a multi millionaire
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In America cliffs house getting raided is an every day occurrence

Fame is a two way street I wonder is some unknown would get the same pay out as a multi millionaire
Some unknown wouldn't have been on the lunchtime news, his house being shown live by BBC helicopter.

Whereabouts in American is someone who hasn't been charged or even spoken to at that point, having their home raided by police, live on TV... an everyday occurrence? I'd be interested to know...
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Some unknown wouldn't have been on the lunchtime news, his house being shown live by BBC helicopter.

Whereabouts in American is someone who hasn't been charged or even spoken to at that point, having their home raided by police, live on TV... an everyday occurrence? I'd be interested to know...
That's what I mean use your fame to earn millions the same people want to see the star getting his house raided. Oj Simpson was on the news while driving also news crews in America run live with their broad casts
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And that's why he deserves such a big payout, Parm. And the people who did this need to pay. No matter that there was no evidence, no matter than he complied with police completely, no matter that he was never even charged, let alone convicted... some people will always assume he was guilty.
There's always that "no smoke without fire " mentality .
Poor Cliff , utterly disgusting how he's been treated .
I'm glad he's won .
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maybe she wants to stay anonymous
Nicky She is head of the BBC so she cant be anonymous, that said I dont know her name
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That's what I mean use your fame to earn millions the same people want to see the star getting his house raided. Oj Simpson was on the news while driving also news crews in America run live with their broad casts
OJ Simpson's car chase. Is that what you meant by "it's an everyday occurrence in the US"?
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Today
the Judge said NO to the BBC on appeal.

Then The BBC said they want a Appeal Judge to review a appeal
Using our Public BBC TAX money
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Today
the Judge said NO to the BBC on appeal.

Then The BBC said they want a Appeal Judge to review a appeal
Using our Public BBC TAX money
You are so right, Arista but don't forget that the award made to Cliff against South Yorkshire Police is 'Public Tax-Payers' money too.
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None of it adds up to the £4million which is roughly the amount of Cliff's legal costs. Furthermore, I find it less offensive that they pay their fine with licence payers cash, than the hugely inflated salaries and bonuses splashed around in the BBC's upper echelons, usually to old school chums sipping champagne and leaning decidedly Left.
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None of it adds up to the £4million which is roughly the amount of Cliff's legal costs. Furthermore, I find it less offensive that they pay their fine with licence payers cash, than the hugely inflated salaries and bonuses splashed around in the BBC's upper echelons, usually to old school chums sipping champagne and leaning decidedly Left.
Am I being misunderstood on different threads today, Liv?

They cannot pay Cliff enough for what he has been through as far as I am concerned and I totally agree with you.

I was merely pointing out that both payments are Tax-Payers money.
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