[Brillopad]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ism-definition

Interesting. Corbyn must be having many sleepless nights over this challenge to his antisemeticc views. It would also make sense to replace him otherwise such action is purely cosmetic.

[kirklancaster]

They are trying to save their party against a fanatic who - like all fanatics - has lost all track of reality.

It may be 'too little too late' but even if successful, it will take a monumental 'sea-change' and years, before the Labour Party once more TRULY represents the 'Working Classes'.

More is the pity.

[GiRTh]

Toxic story that should have been dealt with ages ago. This requires leadership which he has so far sadly lacked.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Toxic story that should have been dealt with ages ago. This requires leadership which he has so far sadly lacked.

[Brillopad]

https://www.thejc.com/comment/column...ister-1.467439

Do people really believe Corbyn is not antisemetic. If they believe he is then they cannot support him with validity. If not - why?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

https://www.thejc.com/comment/column...ister-1.467439

Do people really believe Corbyn is not antisemetic. If they believe he is then they cannot support him with validity. If not - why?

He is either anti-semitic or letting it fly for support.Labour need to get back to being a more moderate party and try to release the hold of the hard left.
Difficult with all those new Corbynite members.

[Greg!]

One of the things Labour has decided not to recognise as anti-Semitic is "Comparing contemporary Israeli policies to those of the Nazis".

Agree with this. Accurate or not, it's criticism of a country, not discrimination against Jewish people. They would be silly to recognise that as anti-Semitism just to appease a few whingers in their party imo

[Crimson Dynamo]

I find it incredible that in a time when the Tories are imploding that Corbyn has barely been seen or heard of, in fact the ONLY thing you heave heard about from Labour THIS YEAR is that the leader hates Jews

[bots]

At a time when the labour party are under fire for anti-semitism and have stated categorically that there is no room for it in the labour party. Why oh why did they decide to not use the standard definition in their rules when advised to do strongly by the jewish leaders in the community?

It's not just one instance either. We can't forget Corbyn going to chat with a jewish radical group rather than the jewish establishment when this raised it's head before

One could either say that Corbyn is completely stupid or he is anti-semitic and I don't think he is stupid at all.

[bots]

and now another labour mp faces suspension for daring to question labours antisemitic definition ...



Ian Austin is facing possible suspension after the argument with the party's chairman Ian Lavery.

The MP for Dudley North, who is the adopted child of a Jewish refugee, said it was a "heated discussion" about how the party tackles anti-Semitism.

He told BBC Radio 4 he called the anti-Semitism code of conduct a "disgrace".

But he added: "Did I scream abuse at anybody? No I didn't."



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44997634

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

But he added: "Did I scream abuse at anybody? No I didn't."

Was he accused of that? Interesting, given that Margaret Hodge was accused of shouting and swearing at Corbyn. I wonder if the next Jewish MP to raise the issue will have their complaints minimized based on apparent behaviour..

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Was he accused of that? Interesting, given that Margaret Hodge was accused of shouting and swearing at Corbyn. I wonder if the next Jewish MP to raise the issue will have their complaints minimized based on apparent behaviour..

yep, and Margaret Hodge was adamant that she did not swear at Corbyn either. I think Corbyn and pals just want to remove any discussion on the topic from the labour party. What topic will be next

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Toxic story that should have been dealt with ages ago. This requires leadership which he has so far sadly lacked.

Preach

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I find it incredible that in a time when the Tories are imploding that Corbyn has barely been seen or heard of, in fact the ONLY thing you heave heard about from Labour THIS YEAR is that the leader hates Jews

Yes it shows just how biased the media are doesn't it... the very same media who when the Labour leader was Jewish ramped up antisemitism across the UK.

Not all Jewish people are comfortable with the definition in it's entirety and agree parts of the text are open to misinterpretation.
This constant bullying to accept this universal definition which doesn't speak specifically for those Jewish people is questionable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes it shows just how biased the media are doesn't it... the very same media who when the Labour leader was Jewish ramped up antisemitism across the UK.

Not all Jewish people are comfortable with the definition in it's entirety and agree parts of the text are open to misinterpretation.
This constant bullying to accept this universal definition which doesn't speak specifically for those Jewish people is questionable.

Or you cant admit that your man Corbyn hates Jews and will now never get elected

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and now another labour mp faces suspension for daring to question labours antisemitic definition ...



Ian Austin is facing possible suspension after the argument with the party's chairman Ian Lavery.

The MP for Dudley North, who is the adopted child of a Jewish refugee, said it was a "heated discussion" about how the party tackles anti-Semitism.

He told BBC Radio 4 he called the anti-Semitism code of conduct a "disgrace".

But he added: "Did I scream abuse at anybody? No I didn't."



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44997634

Yes, I read this, BOTS - It's reminiscent of the beginnings of a 'Stalin' type purge.

Corbyn is a dangerous man - a 'Killer Clown'.

[bots]

Corbyn knows that he could have cleared the whole antisemitic mess up with some respectful action. He chose not to, it was an active choice that he personally made. On the other hand, May and the Conservatives have had all sorts of crap to deal with, but you can't accuse them of not at least trying to democratically come to some form of consensus. The dissenting Tory voices are not threatened with expulsion, they are allowed their voice. The labour party, well that's an entirely different story.

[bots]

Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson has accused a member of the party's ruling body of being a "loud-mouthed bully" - after he was recorded criticising members of the Jewish community.

The National Executive Committee's Peter Willsman suggested Jewish "Trump fanatics" were behind accusations of anti-Semitism in the party.

Mr Watson tweeted to say he was disgusted by the comments.

Mr Willsman, a supporter of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, has apologised.

Earlier this month, more than 60 British rabbis signed an open letter that said anti-Semitism in sections of the Labour Party was "severe and widespread".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45014771

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson has accused a member of the party's ruling body of being a "loud-mouthed bully" - after he was recorded criticising members of the Jewish community.

The National Executive Committee's Peter Willsman suggested Jewish "Trump fanatics" were behind accusations of anti-Semitism in the party.

Mr Watson tweeted to say he was disgusted by the comments.

Mr Willsman, a supporter of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, has apologised.

Earlier this month, more than 60 British rabbis signed an open letter that said anti-Semitism in sections of the Labour Party was "severe and widespread".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45014771

I'm sure this person will be dealt with the same way as Hodge and Austin.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson has accused a member of the party's ruling body of being a "loud-mouthed bully" - after he was recorded criticising members of the Jewish community.

The National Executive Committee's Peter Willsman suggested Jewish "Trump fanatics" were behind accusations of anti-Semitism in the party.

Mr Watson tweeted to say he was disgusted by the comments.

Mr Willsman, a supporter of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, has apologised.

Earlier this month, more than 60 British rabbis signed an open letter that said anti-Semitism in sections of the Labour Party was "severe and widespread".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45014771

Labour is beyond a joke now and SHOULD be totally unelectable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson has accused a member of the party's ruling body of being a "loud-mouthed bully" - after he was recorded criticising members of the Jewish community.

The National Executive Committee's Peter Willsman suggested Jewish "Trump fanatics" were behind accusations of anti-Semitism in the party.

Mr Watson tweeted to say he was disgusted by the comments.

Mr Willsman, a supporter of Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, has apologised.

Earlier this month, more than 60 British rabbis signed an open letter that said anti-Semitism in sections of the Labour Party was "severe and widespread".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45014771

The National Executive Committee's Peter Willsman suggested Jewish "Trump fanatics" were behind accusations of anti-Semitism in the party.

Jewish Trump fanatics?


and people have the cheek to say that this is not endemic in the labour party, rather than admit there is an issue they blame jewish people themselves??

quite unbelievable

[bots]

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has apologised for appearing on platforms with people whose views he "completely rejects".

Mr Corbyn's statement was in response to the Times reporting that he hosted an event in 2010 at which a Holocaust survivor compared Israel to Nazism.

The event was held at the House of Commons on Holocaust Memorial Day.

Labour MP Louise Ellman told BBC Newsnight she was "absolutely appalled" to hear about Mr Corbyn's involvement.

The Labour leader's apology comes after one of his supporters in the party's National Executive Committee suggested that Jewish "Trump fanatics" were behind accusations of anti-Semitism in Labour ranks.

Peter Willsman has apologised and said not all his remarks were accurately reported.

At the 2010 event in the Commons, Jewish Auschwitz survivor and anti-Zionist Hajo Meyer gave a talk entitled The Misuse of the Holocaust for Political Purposes.

Mr Mayer, who died in 2014 aged 90, compared Israeli policy to the Nazi regime.

The Times said that Palestinian activist Haidar Eid also addressed the meeting, saying: "The world was absolutely wrong to think that Nazism was defeated in 1945.

"Nazism has won because it has finally managed to Nazify the consciousness of its own victims."

Mr Corbyn said views were expressed which he did not "accept or condone".

He added: "In the past, in pursuit of justice for the Palestinian people and peace in Israel /Palestine, I have on occasion appeared on platforms with people whose views I completely reject.

"I apologise for the concerns and anxiety that this has caused."

In July, Labour faced criticism over its new code of conduct on anti-Semitism, which critics claimed did not sign up fully to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's working definition.

Ms Ellman said she was "exceedingly disturbed" by the situation, adding that by diluting the definition of anti-Semitism, Labour had "made it possible to compare Israel with the Nazis".

She added: "Jeremy is our leader, we want to be the next government, we need to change the way that this country is run to address the injustices in our society.

"But we can't do that while we are engulfed in this crisis of the Labour Party's inability to deal with anti-Semitism in its own ranks."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45027582

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has apologised for appearing on platforms with people whose views he "completely rejects".

Mr Corbyn's statement was in response to the Times reporting that he hosted an event in 2010 at which a Holocaust survivor compared Israel to Nazism.

The event was held at the House of Commons on Holocaust Memorial Day.

Labour MP Louise Ellman told BBC Newsnight she was "absolutely appalled" to hear about Mr Corbyn's involvement.

The Labour leader's apology comes after one of his supporters in the party's National Executive Committee suggested that Jewish "Trump fanatics" were behind accusations of anti-Semitism in Labour ranks.

Peter Willsman has apologised and said not all his remarks were accurately reported.

At the 2010 event in the Commons, Jewish Auschwitz survivor and anti-Zionist Hajo Meyer gave a talk entitled The Misuse of the Holocaust for Political Purposes.

Mr Mayer, who died in 2014 aged 90, compared Israeli policy to the Nazi regime.

The Times said that Palestinian activist Haidar Eid also addressed the meeting, saying: "The world was absolutely wrong to think that Nazism was defeated in 1945.

"Nazism has won because it has finally managed to Nazify the consciousness of its own victims."

Mr Corbyn said views were expressed which he did not "accept or condone".

He added: "In the past, in pursuit of justice for the Palestinian people and peace in Israel /Palestine, I have on occasion appeared on platforms with people whose views I completely reject.

"I apologise for the concerns and anxiety that this has caused."

In July, Labour faced criticism over its new code of conduct on anti-Semitism, which critics claimed did not sign up fully to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's working definition.

Ms Ellman said she was "exceedingly disturbed" by the situation, adding that by diluting the definition of anti-Semitism, Labour had "made it possible to compare Israel with the Nazis".

She added: "Jeremy is our leader, we want to be the next government, we need to change the way that this country is run to address the injustices in our society.

"But we can't do that while we are engulfed in this crisis of the Labour Party's inability to deal with anti-Semitism in its own ranks."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45027582

It seems as if not one day goes by without another revelation. Corbyn is definitely 'Teflon-Coated'.

[Oliver_W]

Hajo Meyer has been saying stuff like that since 2001, so it's not like Corbyn would have invited him in good faith, and then been shocked at what he was saying. No, either Corbyn is too stupid to research what invited speakers actually say, or he agreed with it.

[Northern Monkey]

Corbyn needs to be the saviour of the Labour Party and get the fck out of it before he tarnishes it forever