[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree Mock.

This is really cruel.

It truly is.

And sadly the worst part about all of this is that thanks to Covid we'll see many more teams in this situation for the next few seasons, the Sport needs to do something to stop another massive club like Derby or Sheffield Wednesday from going through this again as it's bad for the Sport to lose these teams potentially.

[Mystic Mock]

Well Woods red card will be rescinded then.

Seriously this Referee was probably worse than the one in the Hull game.

Both teams should've had a penalty, and obviously Woods should've had a yellow card for his foul not a red, but then anyone bar this Referee it seems can tell that.

A good result away from home against a strong team, we do need to attack a little bit more though.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well Woods red card will be rescinded then.

Seriously this Referee was probably worse than the one in the Hull game.

Both teams should've had a penalty, and obviously Woods should've had a yellow card for his foul not a red, but then anyone bar this Referee it seems can tell that.

A good result away from home against a strong team, we do need to attack a little bit more though.

Waiting for the end of this match Mock was near like purgatory for me.
A draw was okay and I agree more attacking needed.
Satisfactory tonight however.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Waiting for the end of this match Mock was near like purgatory for me.
A draw was okay and I agree more attacking needed.
Satisfactory tonight however.

I was actually feeling comfortable personally up until the sending off.

Admittedly I started worrying when that happened.

Ironically I think I was more nervous for Man Utd tonight than I was for us which is probably a weird thing to say. I think maybe it's because I came into this Coventry game expecting us to lose so for most of the game I didn't get too worked up.

We've shown the Footballing world though Joey that we can draw with the best of the best in our league even when 7 of our major players aren't available to us, that's something to be proud of.

[joeysteele]

Good to see Birmingham win today.
Well done.
More of that please.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Good to see Birmingham win today.
Well done.
More of that please.

Agreed Joey.

It was nice to see that it was Jutkiewicz that had finally scored too.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Agreed Joey.

It was nice to see that it was Jutkiewicz that had finally scored too.

It was indeed Mock.
I was so relieved that goal came about.

[Mystic Mock]

God we were dreadful for 85 minutes, some of the worst Football I think that I have ever seen us play, and I've seen some shocking performances over the years from Blues.

A strong finish though I'll give us that.

The same cannot be said for the Referee though, he was **** for 90 minutes.

I don't know what it is with this club and **** Refereeing, but we're drawn to each other like Monkeys are drawn to Bananas, it just never stops.

**** analogy I know.

[Mystic Mock]

We're getting relegated this season.

Yeah we can score more frequently under Bowyer, but we can't defend on any basic level, and I honestly can't see where the next win is gonna come from.

And yes the Referee had a terrible game tonight, but even I can only blame the Referees to a certain extent for our bad results.

Imo the owners are a disgrace, Trillion Trophy Asia/whatever alias they're going as currently were blatantly dodgy owners to me when they sacked Rowett who only had us 4 points off 2nd place, for Zola who's always been a bad Manager.

And if Harry Redknapp couldn't get us going, then how are Managers like Steve Cotterill & Pep Clotet supposed to get us playing well? And don't even get me started on this loaning business that we seem to have currently going on when it comes to transfers.

Basically we're not seeing the Premier League again until these owners leave the club, and that is sad to say as I normally like to be optimistic when it comes to Blues, but not with them in charge.

[Mystic Mock]

What a weird season for Birmingham City Football Club.

1. We've played diabolical most games, in some of them we've defended so badly that even Fort William up in Scotland could beat us.

2. The referees allows teams to score offside goals against us for fun, literally Derby & Sheffield Utd robbed us of points that were rightfully ours, but having 12 men on the team bought them points.

3. Being allowed to take the ball out for a goal kick just to then pass it to your teammate to then smash it into an empty net against us. This is the most creative way of the 12 men Hull City to cheat us out of points during a game before, I almost respect it.

4. We have players get sent off just for daring to tackle.

5. And on Tuesday 15th March, Middlesbrough will get their Maradona on again and play with their hands instead of their feet and rob us of a result just like they did to Man Utd in the FA Cup, because once a cheat always a cheat am I right guys?

6. Forget dealing with Fergie time or Ole time, we had to deal with Rooney time where Derby equalised in the 45th minute of added time.

Yet despite all of this, we've somehow got 36 points on the board and are in 18th place.

Question is does anyone think that any of the other teams in the Championship could receive this much cheating against them and achieve the same or better result than us? Tbh the only team in the Championship that I think could outdo us with this deficit against them is Fulham, everybody else... No chance imo.

[MTVN]

Forest Green effectively securing promotion to League 1 today

Surreal to do it today by consigning Oldham to possible relegation when they've had so much history in the upper leagues while almost all of our history has been non league.

Will be playing Derby in the league next year. The record ever attendancs at FGR was quite a few years ago against Derby in the FA Cup. At that time we were separated by four divisions I think

[LeatherTrumpet]

calling Mock...

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

calling Mock...

Tbh I'm so pissed off at that performance it's unreal.

We don't deserve to stay up, you see Derby fighting all season long whilst we get hammered 6-1 by ****ing Blackpool, and don't even get me started on the 3-0 defeat to Peterborough.

It's not all Bowyer's fault though, those owners need to go ASAP if we're to be at a decent standard again.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Forest Green effectively securing promotion to League 1 today

Surreal to do it today by consigning Oldham to possible relegation when they've had so much history in the upper leagues while almost all of our history has been non league.

Will be playing Derby in the league next year. The record ever attendancs at FGR was quite a few years ago against Derby in the FA Cup. At that time we were separated by four divisions I think

Congratulations to Forest Green.

[Mystic Mock]

Another game where we don't defend properly.

I mean at least it's not 6-1 this time, but we're seriously a **** club right now there's no beating around the bush about that fact.

And btw MTVN, congratulations on Forest Green's promotion to League One, truly deserved.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Another game where we don't defend properly.

I mean at least it's not 6-1 this time, but we're seriously a **** club right now there's no beating around the bush about that fact.

And btw MTVN, congratulations on Forest Green's promotion to League One, truly deserved.

Thank you Mock and a great match to do it away at Bristol Rovers!

Great time today invading their pitch to celebrate until the bastards turned the sprinklers on us

Glad you'll survive Mock but would have loved playing you next season! We'll make do with Derby instead

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Another game where we don't defend properly.

I mean at least it's not 6-1 this time, but we're seriously a **** club right now there's no beating around the bush about that fact.

And btw MTVN, congratulations on Forest Green's promotion to League One, truly deserved.

It’s odd really, Lee Bowyer got off on a strong start for the blues iirc but it started to tail off once December came round. As crap as it has been for the Derby and Reading (obviously mainly for the former) it’s been a bit of a blessing that those points deductions occurred, if they hadn’t I would’ve been seriously worried as a blues fan. Hopefully the team can rebuild and come back stronger next season but I’m not sure if Bowyer will be around to see it.

I’m glad you’s held Millwall to a draw, I was hoping you’s would nick the win tbh it would’ve made me very happy

[Denver]

Forest winter final 3 games they will finish 2nd and return return to the PL, they were rock bottom and had their worse ever start to a season before Cooper took charge at the end of Sept.

That is ine if the best achievements in recent football and what a manager he is

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Denver

Forest winter final 3 games they will finish 2nd and return return to the PL, they were rock bottom and had their worse ever start to a season before Cooper took charge at the end of Sept.

That is ine if the best achievements in recent football and what a manager he is

There also had a good fa cup run

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Thank you Mock and a great match to do it away at Bristol Rovers!

Great time today invading their pitch to celebrate until the bastards turned the sprinklers on us

Glad you'll survive Mock but would have loved playing you next season! We'll make do with Derby instead

Omg about the sprinklers.

Tbh with the way both teams are going we might be in the lower Leagues soon over you guys, tbh you guys probably deserve to be higher up than us.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dogeatdog

It’s odd really, Lee Bowyer got off on a strong start for the blues iirc but it started to tail off once December came round. As crap as it has been for the Derby and Reading (obviously mainly for the former) it’s been a bit of a blessing that those points deductions occurred, if they hadn’t I would’ve been seriously worried as a blues fan. Hopefully the team can rebuild and come back stronger next season but I’m not sure if Bowyer will be around to see it.

I’m glad you’s held Millwall to a draw, I was hoping you’s would nick the win tbh it would’ve made me very happy

Thanks Dogeatdog, tbh it was nice to see us put up a fight against a good team after calming down and thinking about it more logically.

But I agree with you that if it weren't for the points deductions we'd be screwed right now and I think there's three big reasons behind our bad form in the second half of the season.

1. The owners and whatever name that they go by at any given moment in time, they're corrupt, and run the club like they're a Championship version of the Glazers.

2. Troy Deeney's arrival has really not helped imo, he hasn't played very well in most of the matches that he has played in, and he just bitches on Social Media a bit too much for my liking.

3. I honestly don't get Bowyer's obsession with playing 3 defenders at the back? Our team really doesn't suit it but he won't back down sadly as I think that he has potential to be a decent manager.

Charlton have won two games on the bounce, do you think that might be a good omen for you guys next season to maybe build momentum for promotion?

[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Thanks Dogeatdog, tbh it was nice to see us put up a fight against a good team after calming down and thinking about it more logically.

But I agree with you that if it weren't for the points deductions we'd be screwed right now and I think there's three big reasons behind our bad form in the second half of the season.

1. The owners and whatever name that they go by at any given moment in time, they're corrupt, and run the club like they're a Championship version of the Glazers.

2. Troy Deeney's arrival has really not helped imo, he hasn't played very well in most of the matches that he has played in, and he just bitches on Social Media a bit too much for my liking.

3. I honestly don't get Bowyer's obsession with playing 3 defenders at the back? Our team really doesn't suit it but he won't back down sadly as I think that he has potential to be a decent manager.

Charlton have won two games on the bounce, do you think that might be a good omen for you guys next season to maybe build momentum for promotion?

Yh the last 4 or 5 seasons you’s have always finished in roughly the same position in the table. It’s clear there’s poor ownership happening down there and not enough investment into the squad.

Yh Deeney has been pretty poor this season mind you he was out injured for a few months but I’m sure he’s only bagged 4 goals in the rest of the time he was fit? That’s not good enough imo.

Yh Bowyer did the same thing with us when he was manager. He persisted with the 3-5-2 formation when we didn’t really have strongest of players especially defence wise. A lot of the fans thought that we played a lot stronger when we had 4 at the back and I also thought the same but Bowyer also had a habit of changing the team around near enough every game. I don’t think he ever really knew what his strongest squad was towards the end of his run with us. Unfortunately Jonnie Jackson has picked up some of Bowyers bad habits and is persisting with the same formation with a much weaker squad.

We’ve won 2 games which is great don’t get me wrong but we have been pretty bad this season, dropping right into the relegation places at one point and until I see us make some good signings in the transfer window, then I will continue to remain pessimistic about next season. We have a really weak squad atm and it needs to be addressed in the summer transfer window. They need to stop with the loan players for a start and actually get players under contract with us because a lot of them are not really committed to the club and it shows on the pitch.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Dogeatdog

Yh the last 4 or 5 seasons you’s have always finished in roughly the same position in the table. It’s clear there’s poor ownership happening down there and not enough investment into the squad.

Yh Deeney has been pretty poor this season mind you he was out injured for a few months but I’m sure he’s only bagged 4 goals in the rest of the time he was fit? That’s not good enough imo.

Yh Bowyer did the same thing with us when he was manager. He persisted with the 3-5-2 formation when we didn’t really have strongest of players especially defence wise. A lot of the fans thought that we played a lot stronger when we had 4 at the back and I also thought the same but Bowyer also had a habit of changing the team around near enough every game. I don’t think he ever really knew what his strongest squad was towards the end of his run with us. Unfortunately Jonnie Jackson has picked up some of Bowyers bad habits and is persisting with the same formation with a much weaker squad.

We’ve won 2 games which is great don’t get me wrong but we have been pretty bad this season, dropping right into the relegation places at one point and until I see us make some good signings in the transfer window, then I will continue to remain pessimistic about next season. We have a really weak squad atm and it needs to be addressed in the summer transfer window. They need to stop with the loan players for a start and actually get players under contract with us because a lot of them are not really committed to the club and it shows on the pitch.

You've hit the nail on the head with our ownership.

As you've said about Deeney he was unfortunate to be injured for a chunk of the season, but I again agree with you that 4 goals in 21 games for someone of his caliber is not good enough.

It sounds like Bowyer just has bad habits that he can't shake off when it comes to tactics and rotating the team.

Tbh I can't stand loan players most of the time, with the odd exception most loan players just simply don't give a **** about the team that they are loaned out to so they don't put the effort in.

Hopefully you guys invest well for next season.

[MTVN]

The League 2 ride today was proper wild

[MTVN]

Bristol Rovers haven't been in automatic places all season, needed to overturn a 5 goal difference today to get it

They won 7-0