[Alf]

I'd say so.

I said yesterday that she should be nominated for a NTA for best villain. She gave the performance of her life and had everybody talking about her.

[Amy Jade]

Meryl quaking too?

[Jack_]

One of the most iconic ever

You know after 18 years you'd think just about every possible storyline has been exhausted, but I've never seen anything like this. It was extraordinary, proving this show can STILL spark national conversations about social issues

[tiger_greengrass]

Helen will always be the villain queen

[Robodog]

A 'BB Super-Villain' is something you'd say almost with a cheeky wink

Perez, Helen, Bear, Victor, Nasty Nick etc - all their drama is about things happening inside the house: nominations, big rows etc.

Roxanne went to another level, WAY more serious. Her actions threatened to destroy a person's career if not their life.


Super-villain is too 'fun' a word for the seriousness of her actions. You don't muck around with subjects like that.

Good that it sparked a national conversation, but if it had gone another way: Ryan could have been ruined.

[Vanessa]

She's a nasty, manipulative, compulsive liar.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

She's a nasty, manipulative, compulsive liar.

So was Bear but you were almost fapping over him

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

So was Bear but you were almost fapping over him

At least Bear was funny. Roxanne is as funny as toothache.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

At least Bear was funny. Roxanne is as funny as toothache.

I guess that depends on what you find humerous I suppose. Throwing food repeatedly doesn't tickle me

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I guess that depends on what you find humerous I suppose. Throwing food repeatedly doesn't tickle me

I always like housemates who piss off the others. Like Rex

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by Robodog

A 'BB Super-Villain' is something you'd say almost with a cheeky wink

Perez, Helen, Bear, Victor, Nasty Nick etc - all their drama is about things happening inside the house: nominations, big rows etc.

Roxanne went to another level, WAY more serious. Her actions threatened to destroy a person's career if not their life.


Super-villain is too 'fun' a word for the seriousness of her actions. You don't muck around with subjects like that.

Good that it sparked a national conversation, but if it had gone another way: Ryan could have been ruined.

Perez threatened rape, Helen compared someone to a murderer/rapist and Bear used homophobic and sexist language, encouraged a female to flash another housemate and was violent and invasive of people's personal space and mental well-being. All far worse people than Roxanne who was unsuccessful anyways

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Perez threatened rape, Helen compared someone to a murderer/rapist and Bear used homophobic and sexist language, encouraged a female to flash another housemate and was violent and invasive of people's personal space and mental well-being. All far worse people than Roxanne who was unsuccessful anyways

No way.

ROxanne's actions were very serious, with potential for devastating effects on Ryan's life and career.

Anything outrageous that those others said in the heat of the moment, simply does not compare.

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by Robodog

No way.

ROxanne's actions were very serious, with potential for devastating effects on Ryan's life and career.

Anything outrageous that those others said in the heat of the moment, simply does not compare.

Repeatedly yelling 'MURDERERSLASHRAPIST' or daily enjoying bullying people are not 'in the heat of the moment, it would be the same as calling Roxanne's behaviour 'in the heat of the moment'

[tiger_greengrass]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Perez threatened rape, Helen compared someone to a murderer/rapist and Bear used homophobic and sexist language, encouraged a female to flash another housemate and was violent and invasive of people's personal space and mental well-being. All far worse people than Roxanne who was unsuccessful anyways

Saying someone looks like a rapist isn't calling them a rapist. If you think that anything Helen did was worse than what Roxanne did, you really need to get your head checked.

[Elliot]

Helen would never try and convict someone as an actual rapist tho

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by tiger_greengrass

Saying someone looks like a rapist isn't calling them a rapist. If you think that anything Helen did was worse than what Roxanne did, you really need to get your head checked.

Rape, murder and psychopathy are serious matters, as much as domestic abuse is. It's not something to toss around as an insult willy nilly. Helen intimidated people at the drop of a hat, vindicated and dragged out issues against people, yelled abuse at certain people even while they were shaking on the verge of tears, a vile bully.

Roxanne falsely declared someone beat her up when they didn't and made a tit of herself within 24 hours. A panto cretin

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Repeatedly yelling 'MURDERERSLASHRAPIST' or daily enjoying bullying people are not 'in the heat of the moment, it would be the same as calling Roxanne's behaviour 'in the heat of the moment'

She only said it once. And why?

Because for the 3rd time that week, Brian was AGAIN standing over her, shouting abuse about her being 'vile and disgusting', while he was being physically restrained by other male HMs.

She had not bullied him once. He was bullying her.

She had every right to retaliate to his disgusting verbal abuse and physically threatening behaviour with whatever words she wanted.

Nothing about that scenario, neither Brian's intimidation or Helen's reaction to it compares to Roxanne's calculated attempts to take someone down for real.

Get some perspective.

[tiger_greengrass]

Originally Posted by Robodog

She only said it once. And why?

Because for the 3rd time that week, Brian was AGAIN standing over her, shouting abuse about her being 'vile and disgusting', while he was being physically restrained by other male HMs.

She had not bullied him once. He was bullying her.

She had every right to retaliate to his disgusting verbal abuse and physically threatening behaviour with whatever words she wanted.

Nothing about that scenario, neither Brian's intimidation or Helen's reaction to it compares to Roxanne's calculated attempts to take someone down for real.

Get some perspective.

Sums it all up really

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Robodog

A 'BB Super-Villain' is something you'd say almost with a cheeky wink

Perez, Helen, Bear, Victor, Nasty Nick etc - all their drama is about things happening inside the house: nominations, big rows etc.

Roxanne went to another level, WAY more serious. Her actions threatened to destroy a person's career if not their life.


Super-villain is too 'fun' a word for the seriousness of her actions. You don't muck around with subjects like that.

Good that it sparked a national conversation, but if it had gone another way: Ryan could have been ruined.

[Elliot]

Ok let’s not try and convince ourselves Brian is some psycho rapist now,,

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Step aside Bea
Shift your arse Grace
You are the weakest link Conor
Bugger off Bear
Remove yourself Helly Woo Woo

The grand supreme has arisen!

yes to potentially ruin a career and get an innocent man jail time?

wow

lets all stan coz she caused drama



she is a dangerous devious sociopath who needs locking up to protect men

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by tiger_greengrass

Sums it all up really

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

So was Bear but you were almost fapping over him

Not even comparable at all..

[Robodog]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Ok let’s not try and convince ourselves Brian is some psycho rapist now,,

He isn't. I always loved him til that weird series.

But on that day, from Helen's perspective, his behaviour was very intimidating and scary.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

The level she stooped to needs vilifying and not celebrating imo

This