[MTVN]

Hardeep is right that a pattern has emerged of Sally making dubious comments. She might not have meant them maliciously in which case she should have realised that she'd upset and offended someone and apologised for it, instead she went ott defensive with her 'I'm not having it' screeching. In the end it's her demanding an apology from Hardeep when it should have been the other way round

[Aaliyah]

I agree that Sally was trying to goad hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head'. She clearly knows what a turban is. Also last night she first said 'you're too brown', then tried to backtrack in front of everyone that she said to everyone they need talc powder, she didn't. She was patronising him and sneakily antagonising Hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head', regardless of whether or not she knew what it was (she more than likely did know it was a turban for **** sake), she will have known it is important to Hardeep and wouldn't want to use it in some game as a bandage.

Disgusting behaviour from Sally and as everyone knows I am NOT a fan of Hardeep.

[parmnion]

Vile woman.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

I agree that Sally was trying to goad hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head'. She clearly knows what a turban is. Also last night she first said 'you're too brown', then tried to backtrack in front of everyone that she said to everyone they need talc powder, she didn't. She was patronising him and sneakily antagonising Hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head', regardless of whether or not she knew what it was (she more than likely did know it was a turban for **** sake), she will have known it is important to Hardeep and wouldn't want to use it in some game as a bandage.

Disgusting behaviour from Sally and as everyone knows I am NOT a fan of Hardeep.

I agree with you and yes she did say "You're too brown" then lied that she had said it

[Chero]

Maybe Hardeep should have let it slide, but if someone feels offended, the person who offended them should apologize. Sally was wrong. Sally is the one who blew it out of proportion.

[Aaliyah]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I agree with you and yes she did say "You're too brown" then lied that she had said it

It hurts me to say it because I didn't like Hardeep as a housemate but it was never because of race. Sally is very calculating and sneaky, I've massively gone off her. I can't believe I voted for her against Hardeep, I never would have had I known she is in fact a closet racist.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

It hurts me to say it because I didn't like Hardeep as a housemate but it was never because of race. Sally is very calculating and sneaky, I've massively gone off her. I can't believe I voted for her against Hardeep, I never would have had I known she is in fact a closet racist.

I was 2 ways with Hardeep one minute hated him then next minute felt really sorry for him as they did ostracise him ,but he was right about Sally ,she's an awful woman

[Calderyon]

Sally is a horrible person and a fraud, but I am not sure about racist.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I was 2 ways with Hardeep one minute hated him then next minute felt really sorry for him as they did ostracise him ,but he was right about Sally ,she's an awful woman

Hardeep would insult them and walk off and sit by himself. Many times it was shown how they went and spoke to him to get involved.

Hardeep chose to isolate himself, he bragged about upsetting them as he thought he was being clever. He was his own worst enemy many times.

He even said white housemates were the KKK how's that for a racist remark but they didn't take umbrage with him.

[Epic.]

Originally Posted by Calderyon

Sally is a horrible person and a fraud, but I am not sure about racist.

Dunno about racism, but she is at the very least racially ignorant as most people would know that if you don't know what a turban is, never under any circumstance tell a Sikh person about 'the thing on their head.' And as far as fraudulence goes, she absolutely used that to her advantage last night. Notice how within a matter of seconds of her being upset the housemates ended up ALL taking turns having a disagreement with Hardeep. She knew she'd be safe with her backup and I hope she gets what's coming from the crowd tomorrow night

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Hardeep would insult them and walk off and sit by himself. Many times it was shown how they went and spoke to him to get involved.

Hardeep chose to isolate himself, he bragged about upsetting them as he thought he was being clever. He was his own worst enemy many times.

He even said white housemates were the KKK how's that for a racist remark but they didn't take umbrage with him.

Yes I agree he was his own worst enemy a lot of the time, but all the backstabbing about him from them ALL apart from Nick who stayed nuetral was awful

The KKK thing was disgusting and I slaughtered him for saying it, but all in all I think he had a hard ride in there all down to Sally stirring the pot due to her hatred of him

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Epic.

Dunno about racism, but she is at the very least racially ignorant as most people would know that if you don't know what a turban is, never under any circumstance tell a Sikh person about 'the thing on their head.' And as far as fraudulence goes, she absolutely used that to her advantage last night. Notice how within a matter of seconds of her being upset the housemates ended up ALL taking turns having a disagreement with Hardeep. She knew she'd be safe with her backup and I hope she gets what's coming from the crowd tomorrow night

Sally was the ring leader

[troy4783]

I voted Sally but now I think about it I think they both extremely overreacted !

[kirklancaster]

Show me ANY middle-aged woman who does NOT know what a Turban is and what it is called, and I will show you a woman who MUST have lived in splendid isolation in a cave since she was 5 years old.

Ignore Sikhism, the Turban has been a highly recognised FASHION item for women since women started adorning their heads:

MIDDLE-AGED SALLY MORGAN IS A LIAR.

[Patricia4]

Hardeep he had every right to be upset

[Niamh.]

Hardeep, that comment was borderline

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No sorry ,I usually agree with all you say, but my 9 yr old granddaughter would know what a turban is ,so Sally knew what it was and how symbolic it is to Sikhs

Exactly this. Anyone who lives in the UK and claims not to know what a turban is called is flat out lying.

[Paula D]

Although I can't stand Sally I was on her side before they showed the remark about the turban. That was extremely offensive and I wish Hardeep had pulled her up on that there and then.

By kicking off the following day and walking out of the room he did himself no favours.

[Gusto Brunt]

Hardeep is always looking for racist comments.

If you said to him at tea, 'please pass the brown sauce', he'd think you were being racist.

He's a pain in the botty.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Sihks fought in the war for the UK and to dismiss his turban as it it were a mere rag and she did not know what it was called was racism pure and simple


lets face facts - she and her husband dont like brown people, or gay people

end of

[Gusto Brunt]

I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.

Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...

And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.

Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...

And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.

So what though? Unless he follows everything to the letter it doesn't count or?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sihks fought in the war for the UK and to dismiss his turban as it it were a mere rag and she did not know what it was called was racism pure and simple


lets face facts - she and her husband dont like brown people, or gay people

end of

So true, we owe Sikhs a lot, they are a proud people who stood side by side with us during the war

Yes I agree on the vile couple .. Birds of a feather and all that !!

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.

Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...

And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.

Here you go, Gusto - from 'GoSikh':

"I want to use this space and share what my Turban means to me. While I have always been a Sikh as long as I have existed, I learn more about my religion, my faith each passing day.

Everyday,
I wear my Turban as a mark of Respect to my elders and the Gurus.
I wear my Turban with Dignity
I wear my Turban as a Tribute to the Gurus
I wear my Turban to pray for all the Sikhs who have sacrificed their lives so we can have a better one
I wear my Turban with Pride to show to the world that I am Proud to be a Sikh
I wear my Turban as a sign of a humble creation of God.
I wear my Turban so I can find another in the crowd.
I wear my Turban because it is part of me and I would not have it any other way.

Turban is a valuable and sacred piece of cloth (many meters in length) that Sikh Men and Women use to cover their Kesh (Hair).

A Turban is supposed to be untied and tied daily and the Turban deserves the highest respect and should be placed in a respectable place in the house.

Many religions and cultures require their followers to wear a Turban or a head covering. Sikhs cover their head with a Turban."

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.

Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...

And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.

Actually, look a little more closely and you will see that he has his hair tied up in a little bun on the back of his head.