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12-09-2018, 08:43 PM | #26 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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12-09-2018, 09:44 PM | #27 | |||
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Loved the way the little boy gave his nanny a cuddle.
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12-09-2018, 09:51 PM | #28 | |||
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There are a lot of people like this on the hard left that are so dogmatic that everyone they disagree with is an 'enemy', in the end they basically become bullies
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12-09-2018, 10:21 PM | #29 | |||
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Well there was the guy in Reese Mogg fancy dress and the woman with the pink hair. And no way of knowing who else was off camera.
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13-09-2018, 02:12 AM | #30 | ||
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The same can be said for either side's more extreme elements. Both are as bad as each other but this whole story is basically just an attempt to paint in broad strokes.
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13-09-2018, 06:51 AM | #31 | |||
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I love how the MSM call these crazies "activists" and not far left extremists
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13-09-2018, 07:00 AM | #32 | |||
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Let’s be real though. It’s the Sun. They need anti-left articles because it’s the easiest way to get money from their target audience.
The closest they got this week is a frail old man asking how much Moggs nanny earns, but they tricked their readers into thinking it’s something a lot worse with a clickbaity title. It’s a shame that this is how we live now.
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13-09-2018, 07:21 AM | #33 | |||
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13-09-2018, 07:42 AM | #34 | |||
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LMFAO.
Whinging, whining, flat-cap ignoramus 'Rag an Bone' lost the plot AND was hoisted on his own petard. After spectacularly FAILING to intimidate the Rees-Mogg children with his leftie propaganda, and 'rattle' the ice-cool Rees Mogg himself, he then tries to 'appeal' directly to the nanny: 'Surely SHE will support me Guv - after all, she's 'downtrodden' working class like moi'. She was having NONE of his twisted tosh and pulled the rug from under his feet by declaring how happy she is in her job and by defending Rees-Mogg. She patently enjoys her work and has such a bond with the Rees-Mogg family that she has been in her post for 50 years, and the Rees-Mogg children so obviously love her and regard her as 'one of the family. Rag and Bone is yet just another pathetic and deluded 'Rabble Without A Cause' leftie CLOWN. Totally laughable.
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13-09-2018, 07:59 AM | #35 | |||
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One unpleasant man discussing Moggs’ nanny wage wouldnt have got a tenth of the ad revenue VILE LEFT MOB TARGETTING CHILDREN sure as **** does though Its just a bit sad imo Im not defending the bloke, the story isnt interesting to me. Im discussing the title - i find that far more interesting.
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13-09-2018, 08:36 AM | #36 | |||
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Well they are left wing protesters and they did target his children so I'd say the title is pretty accurate. It's been a pretty big news story across all outlets and even a lot of Labour MPs have been speaking out to denounce it
If it's just dismissed as 'barely news' then this sort of thing is normalised as though politicians should just expect to be harassed with their children every time they step out their front door. Its intimidation and it puts off a lot of people from being involved in politics |
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13-09-2018, 09:02 AM | #37 | |||
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As to it just being the sun. Try these. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...d-by-activists https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8534341.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ob-rees-moggs/
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13-09-2018, 09:06 AM | #38 | ||
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It clearly isn't, ONE guy brought his kids into it, and it was described as "a mob" targetting the kids. Now, you could say that a mob was present, and that ONE protester targetted the children, but to suggest that an entire mob of people brought the kids into it is fake news. Deliberate fake news. AKA propaganda .
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13-09-2018, 09:09 AM | #39 | |||
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I am surprised that some members are unaware of how the media has been operating since the invention of the printing press!
One would even suggest that its nothing more than an attempt to avoid the issue altogether? |
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13-09-2018, 09:10 AM | #40 | |||
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13-09-2018, 09:13 AM | #41 | ||
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13-09-2018, 09:20 AM | #42 | |||
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And how do you know if the clip shows the whole incident or a small clip of it?
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13-09-2018, 09:22 AM | #43 | |||
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I can't believe you don't care about OAP's being assaulted by giant feathered mythical beasts, Jaxi, just because it was after the cameras stopped. ... The evidence that is available is that ONE person (NOT a mob) brought his children into it. Those are the facts. Then calling that "a mob" is at best guesswork, and at worst, deliberate misrepresentation. |
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13-09-2018, 09:27 AM | #45 | ||
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Yeah we can only comment on what we can see, no point in speculating about what happened next That guy was a complete dick though, you just don't target kids
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13-09-2018, 09:27 AM | #46 | |||
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he has been on benefits since he left univ apparently
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The story is deliberately misrepresentative in order to nullify the complaints of the larger group by focussing on the actions of one individual and apply those to the entire group. It's a common press tactic so, really, it's one that people should make an effort to be able to see through if they actually want to understand what's going on, and not what they're being fed. |
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13-09-2018, 09:32 AM | #48 | |||
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Apparently there is a four minute video on the protest groups Facebook page.
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13-09-2018, 09:33 AM | #49 | |||
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It is accurate that protesters (plural) were present. It is accurate that ONE protester targetted Rees-Mogg's children. The thread title states that protesters (plural) targetted Rees-Mogg's children. That is not accurate. It's misrepresentative. There's no argument that it isn't... there's a video... which if anything shows that multiple protesters did NOT target the children, it appears to show the entire section start to finish from the point where the kids were mentioned, to the point where they were taken away, during which one protester started hounding the kids. Which, yes, is wrong. But the attempt to nullify the point of the protest by tarring every protester there as targetting kids is disingenuous and (in my opinion) probably deliberate, or at least full of subconscious bias. Last edited by Toy Soldier; 13-09-2018 at 09:38 AM. |
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