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Old 22-10-2018, 09:25 AM #26
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SAYS WHO?


She is not Security
She is responsible for her own security, and her checking the guy had a key fob was part of that. They were told in their contracts that each and every resident was responsible for security
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...if she thought that he could be an intruder, felt she was in danger in any way...I wonder why she would confront him, rather than just contact security...
Exactly. I don't care who you are, male, female, black, white, if I'm walking to my own home and some stranger starts demanding information from me I would be telling them to **** off
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Exactly. I don't care who you are, male, female, black, white, if I'm walking to my own home and some stranger starts demanding information from me I would be telling them to **** off
..yeah exactly and all she kept talking about in the interview vid is how they were told to report someone they were suspicious of...and she didn’t, she was very confrontational ..(..apparently they’d had some kind of scuffle at the door as well..)...so surely phoning the police or security if she didn’t think he was on the level...she seemed to feel perfectly safe in being alone with a ‘suspicious stranger who wouldn’t show her his fob..’...I’m glad he videoed it all...
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She is responsible for her own security, and her checking the guy had a key fob was part of that. They were told in their contracts that each and every resident was responsible for security


He is a resident
No threat to her


He was correct to Film it all on his HD phone
and show her he has the door fob at the last moment.


She can move out
for her own safety

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Exactly. I don't care who you are, male, female, black, white, if I'm walking to my own home and some stranger starts demanding information from me I would be telling them to **** off


Yes
the Fella was Correct


Her dog needs a garden
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The lady was drunk, that is clear
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The lady was drunk, that is clear

Was she
not by much



NBC or Fox2
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Was she
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never said she was pissed
she had deffo had a good few drinks, hence why she got in the lift with him
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she had deffo had a good few drinks, hence why she got in the lift with him


What is she after his body?
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yes but they are reporting on a youtube video with little context and if its intro was "White Woman Attempts To Block Black Man From Entering His Apartment Building"


then its hardly objective
It is NBC's YT channel. That is how they titled their content.
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Crazy old bitch ! , i watched this last night on youtube .
She's the one who's harassing him and she even stalked him to his apartment door .

I'm glad he filmed her and she's embarrassed herself! . It's literally non of her business which floor or apartment number he lives at !. She must of felt stupid when she saw he had keys to his apartment where he LIVES! .
I'm sure there are some safety guidelines about access to strangers but she could have called security instead of playing Gestapo. I don't think gives ppl a pass to outright harass ppl entering the property. If she was really concerned, I don't think she would've followed him... in her words "Are you kidding me?!" when he went through the door past... it was about ego, not neighborly concern. She's like those ppl on Nextdoor that make it a mission to rude and obnoxious.
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The guy handled it all wrong. His attitude stunk to high heaven. He could have diffused the situation immediately. What a nasty person he must be - filming it? says it all really
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The guy handled it all wrong. His attitude stunk to high heaven. He could have diffused the situation immediately. What a nasty person he must be - filming it? says it all really
Did he? She called the cops on him after he walked into his own apartment. What if she was a nut and made a false report?

White St. Louis woman who blocked black neighbor from entering apartment building is fired
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I like her nickname... 4th floor becky
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[White St. Louis woman who blocked black neighbor from entering apartment building is fired]


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I like her nickname... 4th floor becky
She looks a bit like Amy Schumer and funnily enough they're both idiots!.

And I don't understand why people keep saying "why didn't he show his fob" . Why should he ??? He lives there and she wasn't asking him politely she was being confrontational plus she blocked the door way which was childish & unreasonable.

She never thought she was in danger, otherwise why follow him like a crazy stalker ! . If she's worried due to criminal activity, wasn't she scared she'd get attacked?? that's why I don't believe her bs .

Makes you wonder if a group of friends came back to the apartment complex, would she confront them all when she's on her own if she doesn't recognise them ??

She's ridiculous, why didn't she call security or something, if she was truly suspicious. Nobody with half a brain would block a door way and get in someone's face like that with just a little dog by her side .

So is it any wonder why people think she had another motive as she did everything WRONG !! .
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Her actions betray her intent. If she was truly as worried about security as she claimed, she wouldn't have confronted him nor would she have followed him to his door. It's just the latest in a trend of racist white people calling the police on black people for no reason.

This wouldn''t have been a story if she actually just stuck to procedure and alerted security to clear things up instead of confronting him and trying to intimidate someone for the colour of their skin.
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The guy handled it all wrong. His attitude stunk to high heaven. He could have diffused the situation immediately. What a nasty person he must be - filming it? says it all really

Attitudes like yours are the reason why black people have to try twice as hard for the same that white people have. Even if they are the victims, you will overanalyse their actions to place blame at their feet in ways that you wouldn't had this situation been reversed.

If he didn't film it then he wouldn't have proof of wrongdoing and anything he said wouldn't have been believed. It says it all that you are saying this guy is nasty for filming harassment he has endured but you say nothing of the person who blocked him from his own building and followed him to his door and then called the police on him for doing so. Where is your condemnation for the white person in the wrong and why do you constantly look to blame the black person for entering his own apartment?

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Attitudes like yours are the reason why black people have to try twice as hard for the same that white people have. Even if they are the victims, you will overanalyse their actions to place blame at their feet in ways that you wouldn't had this situation been reversed.

If he didn't film it then he wouldn't have proof of wrongdoing and anything he said wouldn't have been believed. It says it all that you are saying this guy is nasty for filming harassment he has endured but you say nothing of the person who blocked him from his own building and followed him to his door and then called the police on him for doing so. Where is your condemnation for the white person in the wrong and why do you constantly look to blame the black person for entering his own apartment?
proof of wrong doing, dont make me laugh

if a resident cant easlity and with some charm and humility explain to another that they are a resident then it stinks

He could have easily and without drama diffused the situation - all he could think of was YOutube and getting in the media

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Her actions betray her intent. If she was truly as worried about security as she claimed, she wouldn't have confronted him nor would she have followed him to his door. It's just the latest in a trend of racist white people calling the police on black people for no reason.

This wouldn''t have been a story if she actually just stuck to procedure and alerted security to clear things up instead of confronting him and trying to intimidate someone for the colour of their skin.
..I’m also thinking that she had seen him before going in and out of the apartment block and knew for sure he was a resident...because that would explain the absence of ‘threat’ she seems to feel from him in how confrontational she was plus proceeding with that confrontation to be alone in the lift with him up to his floor...rather than phone for security to check it all out...it feels like she just wanted to know his apartment number and maybe ask around about who he was, see what she could find out about him etc...
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..I’m also thinking that she had seen him before going in and out of the apartment block and knew for sure he was a resident...because that would explain the absence of ‘threat’ she seems to feel from him in how confrontational she was plus proceeding with that confrontation to be alone in the lift with him up to his floor...rather than phone for security to check it all out...it feels like she just wanted to know his apartment number and maybe ask around about who he was, see what she could find out about him etc...
No I think she had been drinking and hence was much braver than you would expect her to be
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I kind of understood her a little.

If she has lived there a long time and never seen this guy before and he tries to get into her building without a security fob perhaps she was legitimately worried he was an intruder?

I didn't think it was racially motivated either.
I agree with this.

She was holding the door open while her dog was out, he wanted to walk straight through the door where normally he would have to "key in". Personally I'd have shut the door on him and if and when he keyed in, I would have apologised. She obviously didn't recognise him and even said, if you are a neighbour I'd like to get to know you. And she was fired for this? Would she have been fired if he had been white, I wonder? I didn't hear her racially abuse him, she never raised her voice... storm in a teacup.
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Why not just let her close the door and then open it with the fob instead of this petty arguing and filming?

Yes, she was out of order but come on.

It's a little tiring that every case of a white and black person having a public dispute being filmed and used as evidence of racism when no racism occurs.

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Why not just let her close the door and then open it with the fob instead of this petty arguing and filming?

Yes, she was out of order but come on.

It's a little tiring that every case of a white and black person having a public dispute being filmed and used as evidence of racism when no racism occurs.
Look at me agreeing with you, Marshy... I feel all warm and happy.
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Look at me agreeing with you, Marshy... I feel all warm and happy.
Don't get too comfortable, I just read that she called the police after seeing him use his own key to enter his apartment so now my viewpoint is up in the air.

But I think that's more of a "lawsuit America" because he barged passed her to get in, than racism.

As Cherie said, two extremely stubborn people.

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