[Cherie]

what a gal

[Ammi]

..I am feeling a bit conflicted about this, I have to say.....just because of a few commenting when Tomasz made the banana sexual innuendo to Akeem...the ‘too early’ comment...yeah Tomasz must be who he is, of course and most are accepting of who he is and know that the sexual innuendos are a big part of who he is..they know they don’t define him as a person with great qualities...but if it’s a constant thing from wake up to sleep time...then what he wants to talk about will become monotonous and one dimension for some housemates, that’s also easy to understand...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I am feeling a bit conflicted about this, I have to say.....just because of a few commenting when Tomasz made the banana sexual innuendo to Akeem...the ‘too early’ comment...yeah Tomasz must be who he is, of course and most are accepting of who he is and know that the sexual innuendos are a big part of who he is..they know they don’t define him as a person with great qualities...but if it’s a constant thing from wake up to sleep time...then what he wants to talk about will become monotonous and one dimension for some housemates, that’s also easy to understand...

Yes but isn't it up to the person he is addressing to tell him, yes the banana thing was a bit cringe and he was taking it too far but as far as I know Tomasz has never addressed any of his innuendo towards Lewis he only does it to his friends, and they really should have addressed the issue directly to him, and they actually did during the banana conversation and told him it was too far, it seems to me Cameron has discussed it with Lewis as this was Cameron's suggestion for the box too and Lewis hopped on board with it as he usually does and made it all about him

[Kazanne]

Sian would agree to him talking smut it's about her level, I doubt she even knows what a deep and meaningful conversation is.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Sian would agree to him talking smut it's about her level, I doubt she even knows what a deep and meaningful conversation is.

As Akeem says she is what you see on the tin, and I like people like that, not the many faces of Big Ben

[chuff me dizzy]

By time someone pulled the filthy gett up ,Good lad Lewis !!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes but isn't it up to the person he is addressing to tell him, yes the banana thing was a bit cringe and he was taking it too far but as far as I know Tomasz has never addressed any of his innuendo towards Lewis he only does it to his friends, and they really should have addressed the issue directly to him, and they actually did during the banana conversation and told him it was too far, it seems to me Cameron has discussed it with Lewis as this was Cameron's suggestion for the box too and Lewis hopped on board with it as he usually does and made it all about him

...I don’t think the suggestion was so much about ‘too far’ though...because yeah, the innuendoes and flirtations are taken in good spirits and taken lightly...it’s about it being constant..(..so far as I understood it..)...which is why I feel conflicted about it ...I do wonder though if it’s because it’s specifically homosexual related innuendos with Lewis saying...’we’re all sexual human beings, we’re here to reproduce’...not that I’m suggesting he’s homophobic...but more that he finds constant homosexual innuendos uncomfortable...I’m probably reading too much into that though...becoming more Lewis than Lewis......

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

By time someone pulled the filthy gett up ,Good lad Lewis !!

'
It was actually Camerons suggestion, but like him coming out Lewis made it all about himself

[Vanessa]

It wasn't directed only at Thomas, they all do it.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

'
It was actually Camerons suggestion, but like him coming out Lewis made it all about himself

It was Lewis's that was read out 1st, then Camerons

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

It was Lewis's that was read out 1st, then Camerons

Yes I know but Cameron had obviously been discussing it with him, and Lewis hopped on board with it and took it as his own, you could see Cameron wasn't that comfortable when Tomasz was talking dirty to Akeem and I think he went and discussed it with Lewis who wasn't present, its a bit convenient they both choose the same topic

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes I know but Cameron had obviously been discussing it with him, and Lewis hopped on board with it and took it as his own, you could see Cameron wasn't that comfortable when Tomasz was talking dirty to Akeem and I think he went and discussed it with Lewis who wasn't present, its a bit convenient they both choose the same topic

We don't know that

[Ammi]

..I do feel though that Lewis tends to get all of the understanding because yes, it’s understandable that it would be tedious for the innuendos to be so constant etc...but Tomasz has mentioned sexual restrictions with his weight, which is probably why innuendoes and ‘sexual banter’ stuff is so much a huge part of him ...everything is so black and white to Lewis but he expects so many of his grey areas to be understood...and his lack of self awareness or consideration for the issues of others is my main thing with him...

[chuff me dizzy]

Akeem raised an eyebrow at something Tomasz said yesterday ,you could see he wasn't happy at the banana thing too, but twice in one show he bottled it rather than tell the dirty gett to shut his mouth, he left that to Lewis and Cameron ,and did anyone else think how it was only the 3 gay people who talk this way ?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I do feel though that Lewis tends to get all of the understanding because yes, it’s understandable that it would be tedious for the innuendos to be so constant etc...but Tomasz has mentioned sexual restrictions with his weight, which is probably why innuendoes and ‘sexual banter’ stuff is so much a huge part of him ...everything is so black and white to Lewis but he expects so many of his grey areas to be understood...and his lack of self awareness or consideration for the issues of others is my main thing with him...

Akeem sometimes is also uncomfortable with the sex chat. Yesterday with the banana comment, for example.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

We don't know that

There is nothing else to do in the house, of course they would have discussed it

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There is nothing else to do in the house, of course they would have discussed it

But we STILL dont know that

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Akeem sometimes is also uncomfortable with the sex chat. Yesterday with the banana comment, for example.

..the comment only indicated that it was ‘too early’ not that it made Akeem feel uncomfortable...which also indicates of how often Tomasz’ sexual innuendoes are...but the point I was making, Vanessa...is that Lewis gets so much understanding for his issues...but very little understanding is shown to other housemates...Tomasz is a perv, disgusting and walks through the pool like a walrus apparently...with his weight issues not getting any such understanding..he’s mentioned sexual restrictions because of his weight..that certain things are impossible for him...and that might be a big part in his flirtations and sexual innuendos...but no, he’s just a perv...all very black and white...but never black and white for Lewis and the understanding he is shown...

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes but isn't it up to the person he is addressing to tell him, yes the banana thing was a bit cringe and he was taking it too far but as far as I know Tomasz has never addressed any of his innuendo towards Lewis he only does it to his friends, and they really should have addressed the issue directly to him, and they actually did during the banana conversation and told him it was too far, it seems to me Cameron has discussed it with Lewis as this was Cameron's suggestion for the box too and Lewis hopped on board with it as he usually does and made it all about him

Whilst I see where you are coming from Cherie, imo Lewis could see how uncomfortable Cameron was when Tomasz was being over the top and insinuating stuff in front of and to Cameron. Lewis told him to stop. With the suggestion box more was aimed at Lewis than anyone else and he took note, albeit with an overreaction which once again proved his worth.

As we have said if T.s remarks and suggestions were made to a woman there would be uproar, he was also drooling over Lewis in the bedroom when Brooke was massaging him. Many have said and thought it inappropriate before it was taken up in the house. Also T. only got one nom from his loyal friend Cameron.. This was about T. and not L and it gave all chance to shine in front of the camera. T. has also come bottom of the viewers poll, this suggests that he has gone down a lot in peoples minds. He was definitely the favourite to begin with.

[joeysteele]

Well Tomasz is really sickening me particularly.

Nothing to do with his weight or anything else.
Just mostly what comes out his mouth at every opportunity seemingly most of the day too.

I don't think that warrants much admiration at all.

Lewis also only suggested talking about other things too, not stop the perverting and smut talk completely.

Akeem seems to not want to say anything to Tomasz but if we are expected to believe he'd tolerate those innuendos constantly outside the house, no way can I believe he would.

As for Sian, well here's a likely fair example why she is or near bottom of the viewers votes.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well Tomasz is really sickening me particularly.

Nothing to do with his weight or anything else.
Just mostly what comes out his mouth as every opportunity seemingly mist of the day too.

I don't think that warrants much admiration at all.

Lewis also only suggested talking about other things too, not stop the perverting and smut talk completely.

Akeem seems to not want to say anything to Tomasz but if we are expected to believe he'd tolerate those innuendos constantly outside the house, no way can I believe he would.

As for Sian, well here's a likely fair example why she is or near bottom of the viewers votes.

Twice on last nights show you could see Akeem was not impressed with Tomasz's filth talk, but not once did he tell him to stop it .. Sian is just as thick as pig ****

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

But we STILL dont know that

well its all a bit convenient though isn't it...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jules82

Whilst I see where you are coming from Cherie, imo Lewis could see how uncomfortable Cameron was when Tomasz was being over the top and insinuating stuff in front of and to Cameron. Lewis told him to stop. With the suggestion box more was aimed at Lewis than anyone else and he took note, albeit with an overreaction which once again proved his worth.

As we have said if T.s remarks and suggestions were made to a woman there would be uproar, he was also drooling over Lewis in the bedroom when Brooke was massaging him. Many have said and thought it inappropriate before it was taken up in the house. Also T. only got one nom from his loyal friend Cameron.. This was about T. and not L and it gave all chance to shine in front of the camera. T. has also come bottom of the viewers poll, this suggests that he has gone down a lot in peoples minds. He was definitely the favourite to begin with.

yep Tomasz is a goner on Friday for sure unless he gets saved in gamechanger

[bitontheslide]

Thomasz should be free to talk about what he wants. If that gives people the impression that he is a complete sleaze, then so be it.

I didn't find him at all funny in lasts nights show

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Thomasz should be free to talk about what he wants. If that gives people the impression that he is a complete sleaze, then so be it.

I didn't find him at all funny in lasts nights show

it was his downfall, the sad thing is I don't think he is malicious, he has a kind heart but the Daddy thing is cringe...

what even in that... and where has it come from is it a sugar daddy thing? not sure why I am asking you BOTs