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A Lion Air jet carrying 189 people crashed in the Java Sea off Indonesia, in potentially the worst commercial aviation disaster in three years.

Flight JT610, operating a brand new Boeing Co. 737 Max 8, took off from the capital Jakarta at 6:20 a.m. local time Monday and lost contact 13 minutes later when it was at an altitude of about 3,000 feet, according to Indonesia’s National Search and Rescue Agency. The aircraft was heading for the popular tourist destination of Pangkal Pinang, off Sumatra.

Debris including personal belongings and life vests have been found and ships and helicopters have been deployed to the site, said agency head M. Syaugi. The shallow waters in the area have an average depth of about 150 feet. “We’re trying to dive to locate the plane,” Syaugi said. Authorities earlier said there were 188 people on board.

Based on the number of people on the plane, the incident could be the most lethal since a Russian Metrojet aircraft with 224 people on board crashed in Egypt in 2015.

Run of Deadly Air Crashes Shatters Calm of Uneventful 2017

Jakarta-based Lion Air, owned by privately held PT Lion Mentari Airlines, is a budget carrier that started operations in 2000. It is among major customers for Boeing and Airbus SE in Asia. In February 2012, Lion Air placed an order for 201 of the in-development 737 Max planes and 29 of the extended range 737-900 aircraft in a $22.4 billion deal valued at list price.

Lion Air flies 183 routes locally as well as to some overseas destinations such as Singapore, Malaysia, Saudi Arabia and China, according to its website. Its unit Malindo Air was the first in the world to put Boeing’s 737 Max plane into service.

The last major air accident in Indonesia was in December 2014 when AirAsia Indonesia’s Airbus A320 aircraft crashed into the water after taking off from Surabaya to Singapore with 162 people on board.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-pangkalpinang

[LaLaLand]

Oh no

[arista]

"No bodies recovered so far"

https://news.sky.com/story/live-pass...karta-11538893

Terrible 13 mins after take off it went down in the water.

[Nicky91]

RIP

also shocking, because the airline company Lion Air has been Indonesia's most popular airline

''crashed after take off'' i do have a theory maybe, but let's wait what the investigators find

[Nicky91]

among the passenger was former cyclist, the italian Andrea Manfredi


the pilots: captain was an indian pilot who had over 6.000 hours of flight time, and his co pilot had about 5.000 hours of flight time

[Nicky91]

''the flight went to a cruising altitude of 5.000 ft, their airspeed was around 300 kts at first, but then suddenly it went into a complete free fall it seemed, with the airspeed around 350 kts and crashed into the ocean''

so something happened in those last few minutes, it could be a problem with the tail section (which includes the horizontal and vertical stabilizer, cause if they had broken off mid-flight, it could explain the sudden loss of control)

this is my theory

[LeatherTrumpet]

There are videos of the final seconds from inside the cabin (not the impact)

[Nicky91]

where?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

where?

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aVWfd_1540802111

[Nicky91]

ok thanks, quite scary seeing that video

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aVWfd_1540802111

The comments on this seem to be saying that the videos are BS, LT... (as in, not actually from that plane)

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

ok thanks, quite scary seeing that video

yes they knew it was their time to die, a few futile prayers and brace for impact. The TL and I were discussing this this morning about would they have felt any pain and we concluded no.

[thylima]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

among the passenger was former cyclist, the italian Andrea Manfredi


the pilots: captain was an indian pilot who had over 6.000 hours of flight time, and his co pilot had about 5.000 hours of flight time

Then it must have been a technical or mechanical error in the plane itself.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The comments on this seem to be saying that the videos are BS, LT... (as in, not actually from that plane)

Tbf liveleakers call BS on every video posted

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by thylima

Then it must have been a technical or mechanical error in the plane itself.

i'm thinking of the tail section, a problem with the stabilizers, because they went up and down, and then free fall down

Japan Air 123 had a similar problem, with the tail and went into a uncontrollable rollercoaster ride sort of flying

[LeatherTrumpet]

the plane had problems the day before and was reporting faulty flight stats

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the plane had problems the day before and was reporting faulty flight stats

Yes and it was a new plane

[Nicky91]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska...nes_Flight_261

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_611

these are all plane crashes, with lacklustre maintenance involved


so if this one did have lacklustre maintenance, i wouldn't be surprised


the maintenance personnel usually look for the cheapest and quickest way to repair planes, to get them back operational again asap, which is just stupid and playing with the safety of people's lives, safety should Always come first, not what is the cheapest/quickest solution

[arista]

Yes the Lion Airline
has a bad record.